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Backers Of Parental Notification Try Again

Aired 12/5/11 on KPBS News.

Signature gathering has begun on two initiatives that would require parents to be notified before an "unemancipated" minor girl could get an abortion. California voters have rejected three similar measures in recent elections.

— Signature gathering has begun on two initiatives that would require parents to be notified before an "unemancipated" minor girl could get an abortion. California voters have rejected three similar measures in recent elections.

Three dozen other states require parental notification or consent before a teen can get an abortion. But California voters haven't supported the concept.

That hasn't deterred proponents, who are determined to give it another shot.

Vince Hall is a vice president with Planned Parenthood of the Pacific Southwest.

"This would be the fourth time in six years that such an initiative was placed before the voters," Hall pointed out. "So we think that maybe we need a 'three strikes and you're out' policy for ballot initiatives."

San Diego Reader publisher Jim Holman is part of a committee that's backing the parental notification effort. He was one of the main underwriters for the previous initiatives.

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Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | December 6, 2011 at 8:37 a.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

It is beyond me why such a sensible proposition like this would not pass. More power to Mr. Holman.

Imagine, you need parental persmission for an ear perforation or to view a "R" - rated film in class, but not for an abortion! Oh, no way!

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jkp135 | December 6, 2011 at 12:45 p.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

The notion that a minor, who needs parental permission for scores of other decisions of less import, should be exempt from parental guidance in a potentially life-changing decision is absurd. Moreover, for the government to usurp such parental responsibility is an unwarranted intrusion into the duty and rights of parents.

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Peking_Duck_SD | December 6, 2011 at 2:30 p.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

Mission and jkp, research has shown that girls are at a much higher risk of pregnancy complications, trying to hide being pregnant during the early stages, and taking dangerous illegal measures to get abortions. There are cases of girls doing things like hitting their bodies with baseball bats just to lose the baby because they are afraid to tell them they are pregnant.

All this law will do is create more teenage mothers raising children they don't want and becoming a dredge on the society.

The right wing pro-lifers are all for this, but then they are against sex education and making contraceptives in schools. So they favor one policy that has been shown to actually INCREASE teenage pregnancy, then they support another measure that will force the babies made to either be born unwanted or killed through draconian illegal self-inflicted procedures because they are too afraid of their parents finding out.

If you are a GOOD PARENT and have raised your kids right, they will AUTOMATICALLY feel comfortable coming to you if they are pregnant. DON'T RELY ON THE DAMN GOVERNMENT TO FORCE THEM TOO!!

As I have for the last several years, I will continue voting NO on this misguided idea.

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Peking_Duck_SD | December 6, 2011 at 2:31 p.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

correction - - making contraceptives *available* in schools

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Missionaccomplished | December 6, 2011 at 10:22 p.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

"Damn government," Duck? But I thought we had a different view of Government than those rightwingers you talk about.

Listen, Duck, I had a girl in class (high school) who had a kid at 14. In her questionnaire upon entering our program, she referred to her pregnancy as a "sickness." LOL These kids can't even decide what they want for lunch! You think they have the maturity to make an important life decision on their own. I am obviously not speaking for all, but then again, that's why parents need to be there.

And don't leave the onus all on the girl. If you are a GOOD PARENT, like you state, the son or sons are not going to be impregnating their flavor of the month "girlfriends."

One can favor parental consent for minors and still be in favor of leaving abortion as an option for those who will make that choice.

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Peking_Duck_SD | December 7, 2011 at 5:23 p.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

Mission, to your first point it is a myth that liberals want more government than conservatives. Conservative LOVE big government - from the Prison Industrial Complex, to overly-bloated defense spending, to having a government that tries to legislate what kind of sex people can have (yup, if up to most Republicans, we would still have sodomy laws in this country putting us closer to Islamic Republics than to Western Democracies).

With that said, this issue comes down to the safety of the teenagers. Having the option to go to health clinics and seek assistance of doctors and councilors should be available for those who are afraid to tell their parents and risk using dangerous physical trauma inflicted on themselves to kill the baby.

You seem to be fooled by this sham - it's just one more attempt by the pro-life fanatics to eat away at legalized abortion.

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Missionaccomplished | December 8, 2011 at 8:41 a.m. ― 2 years, 7 months ago

Duck, your first point, you are confusing Libertarians (both Right and Left) with Liberals (capital L). (Remember how many Democrats voted for Bush's war in the fall of 2002? And history is full of other examples. The OSS for example, was created under liberal--for the time--presidents.)

Second point, health safety of the teens, yes. But that's why we OBGYNs. But where does that leave the parenting? It is not up to the doctors or counselors or psychologists to make these crucial parental-involved decisions in lieu of the parents. Come on, that's ridiculous.

I think also your name-calling of the so-called "pro-lifers" is also typical of post-feminist demagogues like NARAL & PP who stand most to GAIN by this. Not only is the "pro-life" label a contradiciton because most of them are pro-death penalty (which I vehemently oppose), but they are also NOT a monolithic group--anymore, than people on the opposite end of the issue. Among those who support abortion as an option, there are those who favor increased availability of aftificial birth control to reduce said abortions; on the other hand, there are also those people who are morally comfortable with having induced abortions (on demand) as SIMPLY another form of birth control.

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