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City Council Affirms Decision To Close Children's Pool In La Jolla For Seal Pups

The City Council's plan to close the man made Children's Pool is as wrong a second time as it was three weeks ago in their first vote.

The majority of the City Council have lost their minds to an emotional propaganda campaign by the PETA crowd.

March 18, 2014 at 2:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

California Congressmen Propose Drought Relief Legislation

How about the State of California cancel the boondoggle "high speed rail" project and use those resources to enhance California's water storage and delivery systems.

We already have high speed transportation; they're called airplanes.

January 24, 2014 at 9:44 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

How Poop-Eating Bacteria Could Clean La Jolla Cove

The Greatest Show on Earth!

Multiple bloated government agencies in a power struggle to avoid fixing the problem by proclaiming themselves to be essential to the process.

P.T. Barnum had it right about one being born every minute.

We're up in the millions by now!

June 3, 2013 at 11:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Seals And Birds 'Reek' Havoc At La Jolla Cove

Residents and visitors shouldn't need to "suck it up" and put up with the smell when practical solutions area available. Zoos and Marine Parks are constantly cleaning up after the animals in their care using some of the same products proposed here.

Mitch Thrower's approach to privately fund this project through donations from those most effected is reasonable and should be given full consideration.

Don't wait for the City of San Diego to do anything to benefit La Jolla. All the City wants is to extract tax money out of the community and claim helplessness to do anything to resolve problems.

City leaders should check the motivations of those they seek advice from. They often don't have the public interest at heart but rather have a misguided personal agenda.

January 18, 2012 at 3:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

How Does County Government Work?

Once again kpBS failed to show a problem in this attempted "hit piece' against a well run County Board of Supervisors. What was your point? The County of San Diego should be held up as an example of a well run governmental organization, carefully spending taxpayers money. This organization should be the model for all other taxpayer funded organizations. Why so critical of success? Way too much focus on skin color, age and political party affiliation. Shame on you kpBS.

June 2, 2010 at 8:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Resolution Of The Seal Saga?

The City’s management by inaction has led to the current state of chaos at the beach and cost city taxpayers millions of dollars defending lawsuits to force the city to act in accordance with the Trust. Still they resisted every common sense effort to restore Mrs. Scripps’ precious gift.

Former city leaders should be held accountable and the current council must correct the past mistakes by continuing the shared use policy while seeking to reduce the seal population in the Children’s Pool. Discourage the buildup of animals currently using the pool and relocate animals that have been permanently imprinted to humans to a natural environment far away from daily human contact. The Children’s Pool can then return to the former balance with a seal population that has a natural wariness of humans. Truly wild seals would not remain with the close proximity of people. Seals will remain in the general area but not at the polluting levels of overpopulation.

Please, kpBS, next time try a little balance in your reporting.

May 22, 2010 at 4 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Resolution Of The Seal Saga?

Now, the seal population has grown and there is evidence that the seals cannot be sustained at the current level of population without seriously impacting all other marine species in the surrounding waters. The seals will deplete their food source and destroy the underwater marine reserve in La Jolla before long. The seals will begin colonizing the La Jolla Cove and this current problem will be repeated all over again. This time though, without the clear definition of the dedicated uses under a tidelands trust, the city will be obligated to surrender the Cove and the other accessible beaches in the area to wildlife.

The responsible thing to do in recognizing the environmental limits would be to properly manage the seal population around the Children’s Pool before the other species are depleted and other beaches closed. This would have many direct benefits toward reducing the conflict.

1. The seal population would stabilize at sustainable population levels and not have a detrimental impact on other marine species.
2. Shared use of Children’s Pool could continue with access by people accepted as a proper and legitimate use for this man made structure.

These uses are all now established in the amended Trust. The addition of the marine mammal park did not supercede or extinguish the traditional uses as a place for people to use as defined in the original Trust. The cause of all the hysteria would subside and people could once again use this precious resource while still protecting the seals. This would remove the profit motive of the self appointed seal protectors because the human audience could not be so easily conned into donations to “protect” the seals. The seals do not need such extraordinary protection. And by the way Mayor Sanders, there is no emergency in spite of the council’s declaration. No more implied closure using the ropes is needed. The seals are doing fine.

There are secluded coves and sheltered beaches up and down the San Diego coastline that are nearly impossible for people to access and are available to the seals. The cost to the people’s right to beach access by surrendering the Children’s Pool exclusively to seals is too great.

The fact that most seals flee humans is normal and should not come with the threat of criminal prosecution or physical assault to someone using a public beach. Any seals that have lost their natural fear of humans should be relocated to more secluded areas to allow the remaining seals to restore the natural balance of human/seal interactions.

May 22, 2010 at 4 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Resolution Of The Seal Saga?

The tidelands that were protected were placed in Trust for all the people of California to use and enjoy. The city council recognized this wonderful gift and gratefully accepted it as the Children’s Pool for the people of San Diego. They also accepted the terms of the Trust and agreed to abide by the contractual obligations of the Trust.

Since that time people have enjoyed the Children’s Pool and generations of San Diegans have been introduced to the ocean by taking their first ocean swim in Children’s Pool.

As time went on people noticed an odd thing about the seals that had always been in vicinity of Children’s Pool. They seemed to have lost their natural fear of humans and were congregating in unusual numbers in areas used by people like Children’s Pool. The seal population slowly increased until they occupied a small portion of the beach. Then, many more than ever took up residence on the Children’s Pool Beach and people began wondering why. The city, with Sea World’s cooperation, had a plan.

In your report, you briefly mention the City Council's attempt to create a seal colony by officially designating a reserve at Seal Rock just offshore of the Children’s Pool. Had the council stopped at the designation of the reserve things would have been fine. However, your report ignored the reality of the nature of the seals that were congregating there. Many of the seals found around Seal Rock, and their offspring, were there only because Sea World released hand raised, rescued seals from all over Southern California, right offshore of the Children's Pool.

The intent was to stock the artificial colony at Seal Rock. Those opportunistic seals had other ideas and promptly discovered the comfortable, sun soaked and protected beach at Children's Pool. The result of this misguided wildlife management policy is an artificial colony of seals created on a man made beach.

This unnatural colony of seals has now increased in population to where the sand and waters of Children’s Pool are a biological hazard to seals and people resulting in more beach closures and misinformation about the source of the pollution. When the true source of the pollution from the seals was revealed the beach had to be reopened with public health warnings.

The polluted waters and sand of the Children’s Pool was a direct violation of the Trust and the City’s obligation to maintain the site for the use and enjoyment of people. Lawsuits were filed and won by beach access proponents. The city delayed and stalled implementing the court ordered remedies to the pollution and beach access. Finally, in a desperate attempt to avoid the obligations imposed by the Trust the city sought an incompatible addition to the Trust as a marine mammal park.

May 22, 2010 at 3:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Resolution Of The Seal Saga?

Dear kpBS,

A journalist with any integrity would try to be objective and present all the facts surrounding this controversial issue. The reporters at kpBS miss the mark in this regard by only presenting one side's opinions on the best use of Children's Pool. How difficult would it have been to get the other side of the story and present the facts about how the problems at this beach came about? This is a huge issue facing San Diego and it goes far beyond this small beach.

Here was your feeble attempt to provide balance to the bias in your reporting.

PENNER: Well you know you can see all the passion and interest in having the seals protected. So what's the other side about?
ORR: Well, there are those people that say, listen, the sea wall was constructed in the 1930s with the purpose of creating a safe beach for children to swim in and for people to enjoy the water without having to worry about the big waves rushing in. And they feel like that’s the purpose of the wall, that’s the purpose of the beach, the Children’s Pool, and that it should be restored to that condition.
PENNER: And I would think many of those people have to be people who have been in La Jolla for a long time. There's some tradition behind that and that would explain their passion against the rope, against the seals.
ORR: That’s true. And also the seals draw a lot of people. I mean, there's a lot of traffic down there. The area can get congested, and if you live in that area you might not necessarily like that.

The designated use of the Children’s Pool is not just “tradition” but state law that was authorized by the establishment of the Children’s Pool Trust. Unfortunately that rule of law was repeatedly disregarded by the San Diego City Council.

And no, it’s not just the people of La Jolla who benefit from access to the Children’s Pool. A lot of us from all over used the Children’s Pool and feel our rights are being trampled by the city’s inaction.

Lets review how we got to this state of chaos at the Children's Pool.

The Children's Pool was created from a rocky point of land in La Jolla. It was an area suitable for use only by experienced swimmers until a generous donation by Ellen Browning Scripps provided the funding build the seawall to create a sheltered beach for children. This was intended to allow children’s and inexperienced swimmers to have a place to enter the ocean and develop the skills and confidence to interact with their ocean environment. During the Great Depression, it took a lot of money, and advanced engineering skills to create this man made beach and protect it from the constant forces of the sea.

May 22, 2010 at 3:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

City Stalemate Over How To Protect Seals In La Jolla

Former city leaders should be held accountable and the current council must correct the past mistakes by continuing the shared use policy while seeking to reduce the seal population in the Children’s Pool. Discourage the buildup of animals currently using the pool and relocate animals that have been permanently imprinted to humans. The Children’s Pool can then return to the former balance with a seal population that has a natural wariness of humans. Truly wild seals would not remain with the close proximity of people.

A shared use plan without reducing seal populations still has people using the seal contaminated beach during the summer. Will the city clean the beach or allow it to be cleaned by volunteers to make it safe for human use during the summer?

The San Diego City Council did not react quickly enough to the overpopulation of seals caused by Sea World's rehab and release program and the assumption of authority by the seal activists.

How can it be that someone using a public beach has to worry about criminal prosecution for having been in the presence of a seal? If the seal takes notice of the person, lifts it’s head to look or returns to the ocean should we criminalize that persons actions? Under the strictest interpretation of the MMPA, that event would be a criminal violation for disturbing a marine mammal. This is an outrageous view of human conduct and a violation of human rights to interact with his or her environment.

The fact that most seals flee humans is normal and should not come with the threat of criminal prosecution or physical assault to someone using a public beach. Any seals that have lost their natural fear of humans should be relocated to more secluded areas to allow the remaining seals to restore the natural balance of human/seal interactions.

The overzealous attempt to ban people from Children's Pool by the pro seal activists should be exposed for the crime that it is. They should be moved away from the Children's Pool area until they learn to behave and respect the rights of all beach users. The constant harassment and intimidation by this group should never be tolerated and will lead to increasing problems as people resist their bullying.

The evidence is clear that this problem was caused by the San Diego City Council's many years of mis-management of the Children's Pool. They did not react quickly enough to the overpopulation of seals caused by Sea World's misguided rehabilitation and release program and the assumption of authority by the seal activists.

The seal activists will do anything to deny people legal access to Children’s Pool to save their open air pet shop. Given their way, all the seals will have cute names and people will have to wade through the sea of humanity at the La Jolla Cove to get to a sheltered ocean entry.Place no barriers to beach access at any time of the year. Continue the shared use policy, clean the beach and remove the pro seal / anti human terrorists.

April 10, 2010 at 9:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )