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Somalis In City Heights Lead Fight Against Liquor License


Complete rubbish. Those are simply empty slogans, no such "pattern" exists of "third world" immigrants not integrating. Similar tripe was claimed about German, Irish, Italian and Jewish immigrants. Our willingness to repeat the mistakes of our forefathers is truly staggering. People never learn I guess.

May 11, 2012 at 2:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Somalis In City Heights Lead Fight Against Liquor License


Are you familiar with every single Iraqi Catholic? If not, I suggest you refrain from generalizing about them. I can't count the times I've seen knuckleheads on the internet say "I know many Muslims and...[insert bigoted comment about Muslims]".

There are billions of Muslims,..hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Christians. Generalizing about any group is pretty useless.

May 11, 2012 at 12:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Somalis In City Heights Lead Fight Against Liquor License


No need to blame things on "eastern catholic iraqis", just like we don't need to blame things on "Somali muslims". Thats extremely ignorant. Lets all be a little responsible with our words.

Again,..this article is not about religion, or politics, or war. Its really just a civic complaint from a group of neighbors (not all of them Muslim). We don't need to turn this into a cosmic Secular-Religious conflict.

May 11, 2012 at 11:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Somalis In City Heights Lead Fight Against Liquor License

Studying Nomad,

How do you know they're not citizens? Refugees are eligible for citizenship after 5 years of residence,....most Somalis arrived in the late 1990s. Do the math.

May 10, 2012 at 10:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Somalis In City Heights Lead Fight Against Liquor License

Peking Duck,

You're assuming that the Somalis' religious beliefs and a general opposition to alcohol sales are whats driving their concerns, but the article mentioned no such thing (you may have been misled by references to a mosque and islamic school) . Nor does the article say that the Somalis are the only ones attempting to block the liquor fact quite the opposite, says that Somalis are only a part of the neighbors who organized to oppose it: "a lot of the neighbors rose up, many of them Somalis". For all we know most of those opposed to the plan are atheists (just making a point). So why single out Somali Muslims? It also mentions that the neighborhood already has a plethora of liquor stores, so it obviously isn't a move to ban alcohol.

I urge you to read the article again without letting your imagination run wild. This has nothing to do with religion in my opinion. Most parents feel they should have some kind of agency over what their kids are exposed to regardless of their religious beliefs. Nobody likes to see loiterers and/or intoxicated individuals in full view of their kids. I personally know some non-religious folk who moved out of certain neighborhoods for those very reasons. Lets just think it through before we start drawing larger conclusions based on an article that has precious few facts and even less details. We're always so quick to be outraged about something in this country. Its getting ridiculous.

May 10, 2012 at 10:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Somalis In City Heights Lead Fight Against Liquor License

@ Studying Nomad,

Somalis have a say in what happens in their community, regardless of how they came to America, all lawful residents should be treated equally. What you're suggesting is to relegate Somalis to 2nd class status. Please read the constitution.

@Peking Duck,

Where does it say that Somali opposition to the liquor license is based on religious grounds? Thats purely your interpretation. Apparently they feel that loitering and alcohol consumption aren't exactly "family friendly" in an area where families and little kids frequent. In a vacuum, I think most non Muslims would agree with that sentiment. Unfortunately anything that has to do with Muslims is viewed purely through the scope of religion. The reality is that there are appropriate channels by which communities can regulate businesses inorder to mitigate any negative impact to their quality of life. The Somalis are not rioting and using violence and intimidation. Their actions are entirely appropriate and probably wouldn't cause a fuss if they weren't Muslim.

May 10, 2012 at 10:06 a.m. ( | suggest removal )