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First Gay Marriage Proposal on Military Base at Camp Pendleton

Congratulations! I wish you both a long, happy life together. Additionally, thank you for your device to our country.

May 2, 2012 at 4:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

The Bible And Homosexuality

"Speaking in love and kindness and knowing these words will sting most of us: Jesus loves us sinners, but does not love sin – no specific sin is worse than another."

This does a huge disservice to any group of people (both the "sinners" and the ones preaching we are all sinners). I have to look at recent news showing the numerous suicides by predominantly homosexual, male teenagers. The above quote from one of the commenters here, essentially says that a homosexual is a sinner and so is a murderer, and you are both people who need to change.
When an impressionable, young person hears this and has been set upon by numerous groups, mostly religious, stating that you are no better than a murderer, these groups will have to eventually understand that their views are tacitly, if not overtly, devaluing gay people.
I know it is not something that many religious people will subscribe to unfortunately, but I sincerely believe that if we are to rise above societal divisiveness and anger that seems to be growing today, we need to value our common Humanity above our Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, etc.

October 5, 2010 at 11:46 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Documentary Attempts To Lift The Curtain On Prop 8

I have become so disillusioned with religious arguments of late that have gone so far from human understanding as to say soemthing like "You either stand for MAN or you stand for GOD."
If god created man in his image, then how can the above statement be true?
Oh, I remember, "We are all sinners. We have free will, blah, blah, blah." I have never murdered anyone in my life; I try to serve others and be a positive force in my community. And believe it or not, I do not murder and I try to do good works not for fear of punishment from a completely unknowable god authority. I do it because it makes more sense to me to help rather than harm.
Also what is the difference between moral relativism and Christian relativism, when there are Christians who support gay marriage because they recognize that more and more studies show that gay parents create a loving, supportive family more often than not. That is a relative view. And add that to murderers who fall to their knees to "glorify god" after they have attacked various clinics and doctors who perform abortions...maybe that's not Christian relativism, but it certainly is pro-life relativism.

June 22, 2010 at 1:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

The point I actually wanted to make though was that I was relieved to hear the Marine officer call in to state that his issue with gays serving openly is because it supposedly goes against Judeo-Christian values. The follow-up comment by the Professor was dead on in stating that there is always a hard-fought battle when discrimination is involved. If someone is claiming their support of discrimination is based on Judeo-Christian values, then I would hope that they can truly act in a way that Jesus preached regarding acceptance and love of fellow man when the ban is lifted. Adultery is a sin in the laws of Jesus, yet he socialized with a prostitute and respected her enough to treat her humanely.
As pointed out by comments above, there have always been issues with hazing and sexual misconduct. This is dealt with as it arises. But for the officer to make a blanket statement that these people - gays in the military - are sinners and should not be allowed to serve is a horrible propaganda tactic that shows the underlying prejudice of so many people. Whether or not the gays in the military are carrying on an intimate relationship with someone while serving, they should not be allowed to serve is the essential statement. So on one side of the mouth, I hear from some Christian leaders that gays can change or they can simply abstain from sex and be all good again with God. However, this officer speaking on air made it clear that it doesn't matter whether they abstain. In his eyes, these men and women are not fit to serve honestly no matter what.

February 8, 2010 at 11:18 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

I too agree with the previous comments. One thing I would point out to you ListeningGuy is that, yes it will cost money, but with thousands of troops - often more specialised and highly trained troops - who have been kicked out, the US military has invested millions of dollars on these men and women, then lost their skills due to the policy. Many have stated openly that they would re-enlist in a moment if given the chance.

February 8, 2010 at 11:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )