Yeah, yeah, semantic point, got it, thanks. I get your larger point, too: Chicano Park mural: bad and scary art. The Beach Boys: innovative cultural touchstone, quite good. Mexican-American culture is tolerable as long as they stress the American part of it. Got it. Thanks. Let's move on to the next 100-comment article.
The fact that you think a mixed culture is destroying the older, whiter culture is some of the most racist stuff I've ever heard. You really should be ashamed of yourself.
You still don't get it! You're the one stuck on California being white, not me! You fail to understand that populations change over time, and culture changes with it. Mexican-Americans and their culture has more to do with being Californian these days than your baby boomer Beach Boys B.S. Latino culture is alive and well in California culture and that's not changing any time soon, so get used to it.
Soooo, going back to your following three statements:
(1) "Not true of Californians. We've become overly focused on multiculturalism to the point we have forgotten what Californian is. That is a betrayal to those who have lived here for generations and those who come here to adopt the unique Californian culture."
(2) "'Multicultural' is just a buzz word with a political agenda focused on diminishing (if not eliminating) our Californian culture." and
(3) "Californian is a culture, albeit one that has been diminished for decades, making it more and more difficult to identify as each year goes by."
How EXACTLY do multicultural and/or foreign (read: Mexican) cultural influences betray and diminish this uniquely California culture of: hanging out at the beach (which I'm fairly positive Mexicans also enjoy), listening to the Beach Boys (I'm sure at least a few Mexicans like them), producing/watching movies (last I checked Mexicans enjoy movies, probably a couple working in Hollywood too), developing software (probably a safe bet those offices aren't 100% white Americans).
As far as your attempt to include unique political and environmental iniatives, well I couldn't agree more. But weren't you talking specifically about culture, and not politics? Otherwise, why would you chide me for referring to it as an administrative unit?
By the way, that's not a FRENCH name you've got there, is it, JeanMarc? You might want to think about assimilating to our AMERICAN culture sometime soon.
Calling someone out for making the racist suggestion that Mexican culture isn't part of California culture isn't leftist, it's the right thing to do. Just call me All Things Good and Reasonable Defender, I guess.
That's strange, I really thought that CaliforniaDefender would've dropped by to define "California Culture" for us once and for all by now. He must be too busy defending California from itself elsewhere.
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Yeah, yeah, semantic point, got it, thanks. I get your larger point, too: Chicano Park mural: bad and scary art. The Beach Boys: innovative cultural touchstone, quite good. Mexican-American culture is tolerable as long as they stress the American part of it. Got it. Thanks. Let's move on to the next 100-comment article.
May 17, 2013 at 5:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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Oh so you pull the Godwin's Law card on me, but are comfortable putting words in Cortez's mouth. I see.
"I have repeated time and time again that Californian culture is a mixture of other cultures and continues to be influenced by others to this day."
True, and then you continue to say that that influence is now destroying it, do you not.
May 17, 2013 at 4:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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Glad to help defend the REAL California with ya, Rick!
May 17, 2013 at 12:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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I find racism abhorrent and uncivilized.
May 17, 2013 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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The fact that you think a mixed culture is destroying the older, whiter culture is some of the most racist stuff I've ever heard. You really should be ashamed of yourself.
May 16, 2013 at 9:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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You still don't get it! You're the one stuck on California being white, not me! You fail to understand that populations change over time, and culture changes with it. Mexican-Americans and their culture has more to do with being Californian these days than your baby boomer Beach Boys B.S. Latino culture is alive and well in California culture and that's not changing any time soon, so get used to it.
May 16, 2013 at 9:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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Oh, great, you finally defined it!
Soooo, going back to your following three statements:
(1) "Not true of Californians. We've become overly focused on multiculturalism to the point we have forgotten what Californian is. That is a betrayal to those who have lived here for generations and those who come here to adopt the unique Californian culture."
(2) "'Multicultural' is just a buzz word with a political agenda focused on diminishing (if not eliminating) our Californian culture." and
(3) "Californian is a culture, albeit one that has been diminished for decades, making it more and more difficult to identify as each year goes by."
How EXACTLY do multicultural and/or foreign (read: Mexican) cultural influences betray and diminish this uniquely California culture of: hanging out at the beach (which I'm fairly positive Mexicans also enjoy), listening to the Beach Boys (I'm sure at least a few Mexicans like them), producing/watching movies (last I checked Mexicans enjoy movies, probably a couple working in Hollywood too), developing software (probably a safe bet those offices aren't 100% white Americans).
As far as your attempt to include unique political and environmental iniatives, well I couldn't agree more. But weren't you talking specifically about culture, and not politics? Otherwise, why would you chide me for referring to it as an administrative unit?
May 16, 2013 at 5:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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By the way, that's not a FRENCH name you've got there, is it, JeanMarc? You might want to think about assimilating to our AMERICAN culture sometime soon.
May 16, 2013 at 9:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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Calling someone out for making the racist suggestion that Mexican culture isn't part of California culture isn't leftist, it's the right thing to do. Just call me All Things Good and Reasonable Defender, I guess.
May 16, 2013 at 9:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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That's strange, I really thought that CaliforniaDefender would've dropped by to define "California Culture" for us once and for all by now. He must be too busy defending California from itself elsewhere.
May 16, 2013 at 7:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )