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San Diego Sheriff Gore Discusses Impact Of New ‘Sanctuary State’ Law

December 21, 2017 1:30 p.m.

San Diego Sheriff Gore Discusses Impact Of New Sanctuary State Law


Sheriff Bill Gore, San Diego County

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The California values that is the official name of the sanctuary state law, which goes into effect next month. It is designed to protect immigrants were living and working illegally in California from deportation. The house state and local law enforcement can cooperate with authorities like ICE . We spoke with Bill Gore about what changes his department to comply with the new law.Right now the Sheriff's Department you have a long history with the law enforcement in San Diego and you can inform ICE if you're releasing somebody from jail so they can take them into federal custody.It will cease in a lot of cases. The Senate Bill 54 the fines what violations that these undocumented people in the jail must've been convicted for and if they have a prior conviction for one offenses, then we can notify ICE and they will take custody. Or if they been charged with an offense and gone before a judicial finding of probable cause, then we can still notify ICE if they want to take custody of them. We have a long history of working with immigration and customs. They been in our facilities for probably 20 years. My concern with the act when it was first proposed and it's gone through a lot of renditions, was that it really precluded our cooperation with a lot of federal law enforcement agencies. It's been further amended order find whether those had been -- amended or refined whether those have been collaborating between all levels of law enforcement. We work in different task forces. I think that is the main break in -- reasons crime is low in San Diego.We can work with those were we have to report to the Attorney General starting next year. There's a lot of statistics. Noted them that's the main purpose is immigration enforcement. I don't want my deputies enforcing immigration laws. We realize that if we are looked at as immigration officers it makes us less safe and there we -- are afraid to -- they are really afraid to report crimes.Can you give us examples of the 800 crimes that you would still be able to cooperate in some which you would not?Your serious violent offenses. Martyrs, rapes -- murders and rapes. It's all encompassing. There are some that law enforcement would've liked to have included. Domestic violence, misdemeanor DUI are not included. I think those are crimes that are concerning to me. I think the impact public safety.I understand there are some ICE officer stationed inside the county jail . At least one in the state have no longer provided any space for the ICE officials. They are prohibited right now by law.We will have common space in there. It's a specifically dedicated to immigration enforcement. We have common space were FBI agents is and other law enforcement agencies will be and I will be allowed to be in there but they will not have permanent space.Will they have assign spaces where law enforcement can work?It will be in general law enforcement space inside our facilities but will not be a separate office dedicated to ICE .Will they have computers provided by -- access to databases?They will have their databases. Access to our databases is an item up for correction. Next year will do find that and guidelines that go out to local law enforcement.Are you concerned there might be some great areas because the state attorney general be enforcing this. The separation of --If there is a great area would it be simpler to release say to ICE you need to operate outside of the booking area?I think it's a point that they have access to see who was in the jail and determine who is a serious threat to them and determine who's in the country maybe illegally. They have to make that determination. Have they been deported? And are they subject to deportation?The rules have changed from the Obama administration to the Trump administration. The Obama administration was focused on people who have committed serious crimes. The Trump administration has gone over to being in the country illegally. We will be able to notify ICE when those people are going to be released from our facility. It doesn't mean the ICE will not go into our communities and arrest those people.I was going to bring that point out because we spoke with a acting director. He was concerned that his officers were going to have to go into the neighborhoods.I sat with General Kelly out here in San Diego and he made it clear that if that's what they have to do to go look for that person, they want to -- they will scoop everybody else up in that house that they feel is here illegally and support them.Do expect to see more of those?We are seeing those already right now.So had they been conducting trainings for your deputies?There is not that much of a change. We never want your deputies out enforcing immigration law in the field. It was clearly set out that we couldn't attain anybody without a warrant pass the release date from custody. When we notify them of release, we have a lot of discretion and we notified them when they wanted to take custody of somebody. We would mark that person notified.Thank you so much for coming.Thank you for having me on.