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By The Numbers: San Diego County’s Most Diverse Neighborhoods

January 15, 2018 1:22 p.m.

By The Numbers: San Diego County’s Most Diverse Neighborhoods

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Leo Castañeda, reporter, inewsource

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>> What does diversity really mean? Is usually meant to indicate that minority populations are part of a group. But it can also be used to define how many different ethnic or racial backgrounds can be found in a certain community. In that context, are new source investigation ranks of diversity in San Diego County. It is part of their by the number series of reports. Joining me is Leo Kasten. You define the diversity test that you used in your report. It involves 2 people meeting each other in a certain community, tells about that.
>> We wanted to say the when 2 residents walk out of the house they meet their neighbors, what are the chances that they are of different racial and ethnic backgrounds?
>> The measure used is not how many people, but how many different kinds of racial and ethnic backgrounds that you find there.
>> How is that melting pot.
>> Where did you get the data on the racial makeup's in San Diego?
>> We use the U.S. Census which has very detailed data but it has limitations. If you are East African, you may not appear as anything other than black. It is very valuable but it does have limitations.
>> Tell us which San Diego neighborhoods did you find that are the most divorce -- diverse?
>> We think the urban core, Eastern Chula Vista and areas in northern San Diego like Miramar. There are a lot of people, there's lot of Hispanics, there's a lot of whites, African-Americans and Asian residents.
>> What is the least diverse?
>> When is the coastal communities, point Loma, they are very expensive and exclusive. Other areas included Western Chula Vista or San Ysidro that are not as expensive or exclusive, but they're very large Hispanic population so there is not a lot of diversity.
>> About 90% of the population, the ones you found in San Ysidro, our Hispanic.
>> That's right. Diversity is not having just minorities but a diversity of people.
>> San Diego's coastal communities were among the least diverse. A researcher cited a legacy of racist policies.
>> That's right. I talked to Jon Weeks and he told me that 50-100 years ago, people legally could live there if they were not white, they couldn't buy houses. Those laws have gone away but those areas are so very expensive, that still keeps people out.
>> As you say, the role of the cost of housing, is a big factor.
>> Yes, those are very expensive communities. People who tend to have money tend to be non-Hispanic whites. Even if there is no legal barriers to those cities, there still economic barriers to diversity.
>> Let's go back to the more diverse communities. One of the trans telling us -- trends telling who is moving there and why they are moving air?
>> It goes back to housing affordability. When Hispanic family started moving into this region, when Asians moved into the region, they gravitated to those areas because of economics. Those areas started getting more diverse and we see a piling on of those communities is a GNU populations.
>> Going back to your first answer, the way you define how you look at the different communities, Aveson idea of the likelihood of two people from different or different ethnic backgrounds meeting each other?
>> Let's take for example in southeastern San Diego. When two Russians work out, there's a 71% chance that they are of different racial backgrounds. One might be wise to white and the other might be Asian. And when people walk out in Senate zero, there's only a 10% chance they will be of different backgrounds.
>> Why is this important?
>> I think it says a lot about how our community developed. It is not incidental, a lot of it is decisions people made and how those decisions have played out in housing costs. And helps us understand how San Diego County became what it is, why people live where they do and what might keep people from moving out and what my key people from making more communities diverse.
>> I been speaking with Leo Castañeda, thank you very much.