Skip to main content

Local Athletic Directors Weigh-In On College 'Fair Pay For Play' Law And More Local News

Cover image for podcast episode

While San Diego State is the only local university with a major football and basketball program, it's not the only school that could be impacted by the new state law allowing college athletes to profit from their images. And, the San Diego Padres announced that Jayce Tingler, the relatively unknown former assistant manager for the Texas Rangers, will be the new general manager.

Show transcript

Speaker 1: 00:00 It's Tuesday, October 29th I'm Priya Shree there and you're listening to San Diego news matters from Kay PBS coming up. More power outages are likely for Californians due to wildfires and college athletes in California. We'll soon be allowed to make money under a new California law. Those students are also receiving a cost of attendance stipend on average nationally and probably $5,000 cash that in more San Diego. New stories coming up.

Speaker 2: 00:31 Uh,

Speaker 1: 00:33 thank you for joining us for San Diego news matters. I'm Priya. Sure either. Fire crews all across the County remain on high alert as another round of Santa Ana. Winds are moving in our direction. SDG [inaudible] says about 33,000 customers have been told they might lose their power this week. KPBS reporter Matt Hoffman examines how those decisions are made and how the process works.

Speaker 3: 00:54 So we're looking at a number of criteria without wind speeds, humidity levels, a dry fuel vegetation in the area that that may be threatened. SDG spokesman West Jones says the utility has nearly 200 weather stations set up mostly in the back country. That helped make the call to shut off power. While the shutoffs might be controversial, SDGD says they're done to prevent a fire from sparking anything that can come in contact with a line that is energized, poses a threat. Once a decision is made to shut off the power, getting it back on is not as easy as just flipping a switch. SDG knee says it needs time to inspect lines for damage. Something it doesn't do in the dark and sometimes requires a helicopter. We have to wait for Wednesday to die down to a level that we can go fly that entire circuit line and make sure it's safe to restore power. Uh, that can be a four to eight hour process and we need daylight to do it. Matt Hoffman, K PBS news,

Speaker 1: 01:44 the head of the VA is warn in California about the potential consequences of wildfire related power outages. KPBS military reporters, Steve Walsh says the agency is concerned about 1.6 million veterans in the state.

Speaker 4: 01:57 Da secretary Robert Wilkie send a letter to California. Governor Gavin Newsome. Monday. The letter warns that preemptive outages designed to prevent wildfires could create significant life threatening issues for the region's veterans. The secretary asked the governor to update the VA on plans to mitigate the potential hardship. The facilities have backup generators, individual veterans and private VA providers may not. The governor's office did not release a response. The secretary's office did not say how California VA should handle the outages. The San Diego VA released a statement saying home based care providers check on patients during fires or outages. They recommend veterans using insulin, especially keep cold packs in the freezer as a backup. Steve Walsh KPBS news,

Speaker 1: 02:43 California's power outages and fire evacuations can be a big problem for sick people who need electricity to store medicine or run equipment. CAPP radio, Sammy Kayla has more on new resources for these residents. The state has set up a hotline to help elderly people, disabled adults, and

Speaker 5: 03:00 other medically compromised residents. Make a plan. In the event of a shutoff, operators can talk people through what medical supplies to bring with them when evacuating. They can also help people connect to their doctors and insurance plans. Find in home care at a new location or ensure their medical devices work during an outage. There's also a new online tool describing which hospitals, clinics, and nursing facilities are impacted by emergencies in Sacramento. I'm Sammy K Yola.

Speaker 1: 03:25 Four protesters arrested during a protest of us border policies last December were found not guilty of ignoring border patrol orders. KPBS reporter max Rivlin neither was in federal court on Monday and has the story

Speaker 4: 03:38 last year at the demonstrators marched to the us Mexico border in Imperial beach. There they were accused of crossing a barricade set up by border patrol and were arrested, but after a three hour trial, Monday, magistrate judge Michael Berg said that the government had not positively identified that any of the defendants had broken any laws to federal protective service officers testified at the joint trial, but neither of the officers could say they personally saw any of the defendants cross into the restricted area next to the border wall. Supporters of the defendants erupted in cheers after the verdict was announced. The protest last December focused on the militarization of the border and the treatment of asylum seekers. Ray Abelia, a member of the Jewish clergy was one of the co-defendants celebrating after the verdict.

Speaker 6: 04:20 If love truly knows no borders, we need to keep rising up in the spirit of love and taking action.

Speaker 4: 04:26 The defendants faced misdemeanor charges that carried a maximum 30 day sentence max with Adler K PBS news.

Speaker 1: 04:32 When governor Newsome signed California's fair pay to play act athletic programs like USC, UCLA, and even San Diego state came to mind, but how will colleges that aren't as high profile be impacted by the legislation allowing athletes to sign endorsement deals? KPBS reporter Matt Hoffman spoke with the athletic directors at two local universities to find out

Speaker 3: 04:54 right after Newsome signed the law in September, allowing athletes to profit from their image. San Diego state's director of athletics spoke out. I don't support

Speaker 7: 05:02 SB two Oh six in the sense that they've gone out and created a law that now puts us in direct conflict with the NCAA and NCAA

Speaker 3: 05:14 Ady. John David Wicker doesn't agree with how the state is handling this, but he's not necessarily against student athletes making money. We're going to work on finding a way for student athletes to take advantage of those new opportunities. While SDSU is the only local university with a major football and basketball program, it is not the only school that stands to be impacted by this new legislation, which the NCAA says would give an unfair recruiting advantage to California schools and could bar them from competing.

Speaker 8: 05:37 I'm going to say it's a concern. It's not a fear for me in that I know that a groups are working together to resolve that

Speaker 3: 05:47 UC San Diego director of athletics, Earl Edwards also is not against athletes being able to sell their name, image and likeness,

Speaker 8: 05:54 whatever we come up with. Uh, it needs to be something that's manageable and work, uh, workable from the student perspective as well as the, uh, the colleges.

Speaker 3: 06:05 Edwards does say that there is already some unintended consequences from this new law.

Speaker 8: 06:09 There is a negative recruiting with individuals saying that if you go to California and this law passes and you're not eligible friends CA competition because the rules haven't changed in that regard and that's that that's a problem for us.

Speaker 3: 06:25 Governor Newsome says colleges and universities are making billions while student athletes get nothing.

Speaker 9: 06:29 Everybody's making coaches, athletic directors, assistant coaches, um, you know, all the advertisers, the programs directly themselves and everybody. But the athletes,

Speaker 3: 06:40 Edward's disagrees that students are being left high and dry.

Speaker 8: 06:43 Something I don't agree with. Uh, particularly when you look at the scholarship aspect, when you look at the meals, when you look at the travel,

Speaker 3: 06:50 university of San Diego, AAD, bill McGillis argues much of the money that's made from athletics goes back to the students.

Speaker 10: 06:56 The universities are not owners in the way that, you know, and the way that professional sport owners have franchises. It's money that stays within within the institution and gets reinvested and, and athletic programs and academic programs that benefit the students.

Speaker 3: 07:14 He also thinks that the NCAA should do a better job of communicating how student athletes are being compensated right now.

Speaker 10: 07:19 So above and beyond books, tuition fees, room and board schools covered above and beyond that, um, at the highest levels, which is what I think legislators are most concerned about. Um, there are also those students are also receiving a cost of attendance stipend on average nationally and probably $5,000 cash.

Speaker 3: 07:41 McGillis does say that there needs to be a clear line between college athletes and professional ones

Speaker 10: 07:45 and I'm not for going down the path of pay for play does name, image and likeness morphed to something else and then something else and then we're there. I don't think um, we should go there.

Speaker 3: 08:00 Student athletes we spoke to say change is needed.

Speaker 9: 08:03 I feel like university and make a lot of money off the players so I don't understand why, uh, is not okay for us to receive some of that money. I think it's, you know, maybe something that is definitely going to benefit student athletes.

Speaker 3: 08:14 That was SDSU football players, Luke bar and Parker Houston, some of the regions, most high profile collegiate athletes. But what about star athletes from lesser known sports?

Speaker 11: 08:23 That was kind of bummed that my sport is one of those that are pretty much left out in the situation just because rowing isn't the most popular sport.

Speaker 3: 08:31 Katie Silla is one of the top collegiate rowers in the country. She doesn't believe there would be many opportunities for her to sign an endorsement deal.

Speaker 11: 08:37 I can see maybe some company that provides boats or gear for rowing, maybe reaching out, but it's, it's very slim,

Speaker 3: 08:44 but Cilla says if the law was in effect now she would go look for those opportunities.

Speaker 11: 08:48 I would 100% do it because it would just help my wellbeing and my financial situation.

Speaker 3: 08:52 ESPN is reporting the NCAAs board of is having its first

Speaker 12: 08:56 formal discussion regarding endorsement deals for athletes today. Matt Hoffman KPBS news, the San Diego Padres have announced that 38 year old Jays Tingler will be the next manager after Andy green was fired last month. KPBS midday edition host Jade Heinemann spoke to San Diego sports writer Jay Paris about the relatively unknown former assistant manager for the Texas Rangers and the Padres. Future. Mr Tingler could walk in the room right now and not many people could point him out. Uh, what he does have is a strong connection with AGA Prowler, the Padres, gentleman, manager. They go back to their days with the Texas Rangers when a [inaudible] selected him in a minor league draft in 2005, uh, he played one more year, then decided that, uh, being five foot a little bit wasn't gonna make it to the major leagues as a player. So he turned his attention to coaching and, uh, uh, front office at work as well.

Speaker 12: 09:49 So, uh, he's worked his way up the ladder, but he never played in the majors and he's never managed a major league team. So there's a few red flags right off the bat. So what's the big deal? What would make general manager a Perella take a chance on someone who has a little management experience? Uh, and never actually played in the major league? Seems like a big risk. It's a big risk, a comfort level. I think he, uh, respects, uh, what he brings. He respects his knowledge, who respects his, uh, his varied, uh, experiences as a, in the front office. Um, while he didn't play in the major leagues, he's coached at the major league level on the two teams to ranger teams that went to the playoffs. So I think that in his communication skills, the here's a guy who, who went and learned how to speak Spanish because of the influx of Latin players in the Rangers organization.

Speaker 12: 10:33 So all that put together, uh, it's a, it's a, it was a candidate that, uh, really a, was zeroed in on and uh, he probably had to sell the organization on it because let's face it, the Padres are built to win. Now you would think a guy coming in with experience, that guy had been around the block, a guy who would be quote unquote named manager would be the way they go. But, uh, Aja felt this was the right move and it's a gutsy move on his part. So while he may not have experience, he's got promise, he's got promise and just look at the world series, which we're watching right now. Uh, de Martinez for the nationals and a J Hinch, a former Padre executive. Neither of them had managed to to major league level as well. 10 of the playoff teams, eight of those, uh, teams, first time manager.

Speaker 12: 11:18 So while there's some of those guys played in the major league, which mr Tingler hasn't, uh, it has been done and uh, the old, uh, the old model, if you will, of having to have experience has kinda gone out the window. How do you think this choice will sit with the players? Uh, that's a great question. I mean, uh, or one aspect of having a proven manager is somebody who can command a room, somebody who has a presence and uh, let's see if that works. So Manny Machado, Eric costumer, I think those guys were, were leaning into a more veteran guy coming through that door. And, uh, it's gonna be interesting to see how they respond. And you know, the Padre season wasn't the best. 70 wins, 92 losses. So what went wrong at 92 in San Diego? And that wasn't the temperature, that was a number of losses, four straight years and 90 losses.

Speaker 12: 12:02 Uh, what went wrong was a, the starting pitching, the falter in the second half, what went wrong was Fernando tatties, one of the most exciting young players in baseball wasn't able to play a last couple of months because of a bad back and they simply couldn't get on base. They set her franchise record for most strikeouts. And, and strikingly that's what Tingler did. He did get on base and that was his calling card as a player. So they're hoping maybe that can transfer over to the big league club. So what will it take, do you think? To fix it? It'll take more players and uh, you know, uh, the greatest manager in the world could be sitting on that top step. And, uh, if he doesn't have the players, you're not going to do anything they have work to do on that roster. It's all gonna come down to the talent level and creasing that town level and letting mr Tingler have something to maneuver with.

Speaker 12: 12:46 And you know, some Padres coaches like pitching coach Darren Bosley have been with the team a long time, possibly 13 years there. Uh, are there jobs on the line? Absolutely. Glenn Hoffman, the longtime through base coach would be another guy to look at. Uh, you know, when you build your staff, you usually want to build guys that you know and know well and, and appreciate their talents. Could be time for, uh, you know, the old, uh, [inaudible] same message, different messenger, and I bet they'll give him some leeway to build that staff. But both those gentlemen are very well respected with the Padres and throughout baseball. I've been speaking with San Diego sports writer, J Paris. Jay, thank you very much for joining us. I see. Any Jayden? Likewise.

San Diego News Matters podcast branding

San Diego News Matters

KPBS' daily news podcast covering local politics, education, health, environment, the border and more. New episodes are ready weekday mornings so you can listen on your morning commute.