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Retiree Health Negotiations May Hinge On One Question

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Aired 9/8/10

Negotiations between San Diego and its unions over how to lower retiree health costs haven’t officially begun. But the two sides showed their positions Tuesday at a city council meeting and the talks could get off to a rocky start.

— Negotiations between San Diego and its unions over how to lower retiree health costs haven’t officially begun. But the two sides showed their positions Tuesday at a city council meeting and the talks could get off to a rocky start.

One of the major issues separating the two sides is whether retiree health benefits are vested, meaning they can’t be changed. Unions say they are, similar to pensions. But the city argues retiree health care is an employment benefit similar to vacation or sick leave.

San Diego is facing a $1.3 billion unfunded retiree health liability. City Attorney Jan Goldsmith said the unions need to appreciate that.

“If the city’s goal is to cut this down to size and the position of our negotiating partners is that, that’s not a legitimate concern because it’s vested, then we got trouble,” he said

If the benefit is not vested that means it can be negotiated. But union attorney Ann Smith said the fact that employees don’t receive the benefit until after they retiree puts it in the same class as a pension.

“You don’t receive it while you’re working. It’s not one of your employment benefits,” she said.

Reducing the city’s retiree health liability is linked to the proposed sales tax increase on the November ballot. If voters approve a tax hike, reducing the liability is one of ten conditions that must be met before the tax can be collected.

The city and unions hope to reach an agreement by April.

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Avatar for user 'LaPlayaHeritage'

LaPlayaHeritage | September 8, 2010 at 8:19 a.m. ― 3 years, 11 months ago

http://calpensions.com/2009/12/15/retiree-health-care-can-118-billion-debt-be-cut/

"The federal court ruled that San Diego’s retiree health obligation is not a “vested right” like public employee pensions, which are widely believed to be protected by court rulings that allow cuts only if replaced by something of equal value. San Diego officials think retiree health obligations can be reduced in negotiations with labor unions and, if there is no agreement, that a cut can be imposed through standard “impasse” procedures."

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Avatar for user 'oldschoolcool'

oldschoolcool | September 8, 2010 at 9:58 a.m. ― 3 years, 11 months ago

Pension "perks" should be issued as IOU's from the city or credit towards utilities, fees, state services, healtycare deductables, fines, etc +/and state taxes.

Not CASH.

Simple.

mahalo

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