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New Report Finds 10 Percent Of San Diegans Live In Poverty

Evening Edition

Aired 1/20/14 on KPBS Midday Edition.

GUESTS

Dr. Cynthia Burke, director of SANDAG's applied research division.

Peter Callstrom, president and CEO of the San Diego Workforce Partnership

Kathy Lembo, executive director of South Bay Community Services

Transcript

It has been 50 years since the U.S. government declared a “War On Poverty,” but it is still a serious problem across the nation and in San Diego.

A new report by the San Diego Association of Governments used Census data to assess poverty levels in the county.

The study found that one in 10 San Diegans live below the federal poverty line, but the majority of those people are employed.

Nine percent of families are also living below the poverty level. National City, El Cajon and Imperial Beach had some of the highest levels of poverty.

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Avatar for user 'muckapoo1'

muckapoo1 | January 20, 2014 at 4:57 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

But I am sure that all of the poor were uplifted by seeing the gala birthday party for Michelle Obama.

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Peking_Duck_SD | January 20, 2014 at 9:47 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

I think the poor are more interested in the politicians who vote against raising the minimum wage, against extending unemployment insurance, and who continually vote "Yes" for anything that gives more power to corporate tycoons than they are about how Michelle Obama celebrated her birthday.

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Peking_Duck_SD | January 20, 2014 at 9:49 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

And by the way, she looks pretty damn good for 50, Muckapoo, she does uplift a lot of people including women who are around her age and see that 50 can be fabulous.

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muckapoo1 | January 21, 2014 at 10:15 a.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

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Peking_Duck_SD | January 21, 2014 at 10:38 a.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

Muckapoo, first of all I find your comments about Michelle Obama offensive, and I'm not going to dignify your irrational hatred of her with a response.

As far as "corporate leaders" aka fat cat CEOs, their wealth has skyrocketed year after year while the middle class and poor have languished and flat lines in terms of net worth.

The top 1% continue to hoard wealth while the middle class becomes a thing of the past in our country.

These "corporate leaders" that you admire so much got golden parachutes when their businesses failed amidst the Great Recession. This means they were paid millions ad millions of dollars for FAILING.

I guess you favor a society where the rich have safety nets and never have to worry about a thing no matter how much they foul up, but the poor and middle class deserve no safety nets whatsoever.

You are either:

(1) a millionaire or billionaire yourself defending these policies that will favor you

-or-

(2) not a millionaire but someone who has fallen prey to the millionaire and billionaire funded right wing propaganda designed to further transfer wealth from the middle class to the top
1% of Americans.

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Missionaccomplished | January 21, 2014 at 11:51 a.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

_ckkkapoop1 has no argument as usual. Only insults and rants. It is one thing to criticize Obama or even his wife. It is quite another to insult. I will click on suggest removal for this listener of AM Hate Radio.

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Missionaccomplished | January 21, 2014 at 11:54 a.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

And furthermore, _uckkka poop1, I guess you missed the fact that in 1979, the NY Times quoted Paul Volker as saying that the standard of living of Americans MUST come down.

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muckapoo1 | January 21, 2014 at 12:53 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

So we can place the first lady on a sacred alter of beauty, and that is the only opinion allowed here. Just because I don't fall into the crowd enamored with her, I have my comments trashed. Typical lib media outlet. Is Duck the editor here and it has not been formally announced?

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muckapoo1 | January 21, 2014 at 12:57 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

Got to love the "drink the kool-aid or hit the road" mentality here.. Reminds me of pre-war Germany all over again. Distort the views and make believers out of them. Go ahead and just toss me out all together. I don't drink kool-aid. LOL

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muckapoo1 | January 21, 2014 at 12:58 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

Edco will receive my KPBS license plate holder this week. Toodles!!!!

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muckapoo1 | January 21, 2014 at 1:01 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

You are not the only ones who can "remove" items. Let Duck and mission run amok. Watch the comments dwindle into boredom with only one view allowed.

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Peking_Duck_SD | January 21, 2014 at 1:20 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

Muckapoo, while I was offended by your comment, I did not flag it.

In fact, I wish KPBS would let it remain to illustrate how outrageous your logic is, trying to make some sort of absurd link between Michelle Obama's birthday celebration, her physical appearance, and poverty.

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RealistNow | January 21, 2014 at 1:59 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

Everything is a 'liberal' this, liberal that' issue to muckapoo. Kind of reminds me of the rednecks I knew in El Cajon who constantly were blaming 'liberals' for virtually anything.
Scientists causing global warming? They must be liberals. More people are doing Yoga? They must be liberals. They want to teach financial literacy in school to help
kids get out of poverty? Must be liberal education!

However, he/she is free to express himself/herself an example of irrational argument, ad-homecoming attack, strawman logic, and black-or/white reasoning. That's what free speech is about, so I don't believe in 'flagging' post.

In short, the article has great potential to determine the root causes, get people motivated, and ways to get more people involve in the community. Yet, the comments
have become 'politicized'.

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JeanMarc | January 21, 2014 at 2:01 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

I do not understand the people who think raising minimum wage is a good idea. It has been proven every single time, in every case, that instating or raising minimum wage has the opposite effect of what was intended.

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JeanMarc | January 21, 2014 at 2:02 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

RealistNow - I really hope "ad-homecoming attack" was an auto-correct mistake. If not, please stop trying to use big words. Instead of making you look smart, it makes you look illiterate and non-smart.

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Peking_Duck_SD | January 21, 2014 at 4:31 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

Jean, what evidence is there that raising the minimum wage is bad and what bad effects come from it?

Is seems like some economists think it's good and some not.

My biggest problem is with the overall stagnation of middle class and poor wealth.

I am all for there being rich people - if you contribute something amazing to society you should be rewarded for it. But what's troubling is that the U.S. Government has, over the past decade plus, been purposefully or orchestrating public policy that stagnates the poor and middle class while increasing the wealth of the richest 1%.

How is it we had a major recession, and people at all levels of society EXCEPT the richest 1% saw a decline in wealth?

It's not normal for a major recession to just "naturally" skip over the richest folk while harming every other segment of society.

It's because the wealthy lobbyist - people like Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers have been allowed to tailor the government so it benefits people of privilege like themselves, whilst putting anyone who is not a
Multi-millionaire or billionaire at disadvantage.

I can't believe conservatives still cling to this antiquated theory of "trickle down economics".

That does not work.

When wealth is redistributed to the wealthy from the middle class and poor as has been done for many years in the U.S., we don't see the wealthy creating new jobs. We see them finding creative ways to offshore their fortunes so they can avoid paying taxes and putting the labor forces of their corporations overseas to save even more money.

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Missionaccomplished | January 21, 2014 at 9:01 p.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

_uckkka poop1 says: "Let Duck and mission run amok"

well, at least that rhymes!

@JOHN MARKKK, I too am against raising the minimum wage, but for different reasons. It is the cost of living that must come down or at least level off. What good does it do to raise the minimum wage and then have gas rise? We're back where we started from! I guess you can say those are some of the contradictions of Capitalism.

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benz72 | January 22, 2014 at 8:22 a.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

PDSD, I am neither a millionaire nor right wing. Wealth transfer happens as a result of voluntary exchange, theft or fraud. So long as one does not engage in theft or fraud then there is no reason to object to accumulation of wealth, much less a disparity between one person’s and someone else’s. If theft or fraud is the cause then that should be handled accordingly.

You say "It's because the wealthy lobbyist..." and the argument you present is one of the major reasons to minimize government involvement in those processes. The less power they have, the less damage they can do when co-opted for a personal agenda.

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Missionaccomplished | January 22, 2014 at 11:51 a.m. ― 10 months, 1 week ago

_cukkka poop1, if the fact that your post was removed reminds you of pre-war Germany, you remind ME of reich Germany.

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CaliforniaDefender | January 23, 2014 at 10:58 a.m. ― 10 months ago

Perhaps this is tied to the failure to control illegal immigration.

If we got a handle on that, the poverty figures for San Diego would surely decline along with unemployment.

Not to mention wages would increase along with access to steady work with benefits which is the key to ending poverty.

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Missionaccomplished | January 24, 2014 at 11:45 a.m. ― 10 months ago

Oh, wait, CA Off, but I thought they were "stealing" jobs from US citizens! Does CA Off mean to say even if US citizens had those jobs they would be sooo lowing paying that they would still be in poverty??? So where is the threat??? I don't think anyone would make such an uninformed statement as to think that people risk crossing into the US with the INTENTION of being unemployed . . .

"If we got a handle on that, the poverty figures for San Diego would surely decline along with unemployment. "

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CaliforniaDefender | January 24, 2014 at 4:41 p.m. ― 10 months ago

Missionfailed,

You still don't get it. If there were ZERO illegal aliens in America (what a wonderful thought), that would force employers to abide by labor laws and pay minimum wage or more.

Thus unemployment and poverty rates would decline as more Americans found good paying jobs with benefits that were previously stolen by illegal aliens.

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