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Roundtable: Pension Initiative, Wings on Navy Pier, Vets Facing Difficulties

Aired 11/11/11 on KPBS Midday Edition.

The city pension reform initiative has qualified for the ballot; the Midway Museum has proposed what they're calling an iconic sculpture and park for Navy Pier; and returning military face economic hurdles as veterans.


Watch Friday's show for Amita Sharma's roundtable with our guests.

Evening Edition airs weekdays at 5 PM and 6:30 PM on KPBS TV.

A petition drive by backers of pension reform for city workers bore fruit this week when their initiative qualified for the June ballot. But would it solve San Diego's long-term financial problems? And will a proposed park featuring a permanent home for the Summer Pops and a sculpture the size of a skyscraper find a home at the end of Navy Pier? And on this Veterans Day, what are the issues facing our returning military as the U.S. presence abroad downsizes?


Scott Lewis, CEO,

Roger Showley, Growth and Development writer, San Diego Union-Tribune

Tony Perry, San Diego Bureau Chief, Los Angeles Times

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harge3853 | November 11, 2011 at 1:34 p.m. ― 5 years, 4 months ago

Shame on you for thinking that being in the military is an easy job and that we don't deserve the same benefits as a radio or news paper reporter. If a person signs up in the military, it's the luck of the draw if that person gets a job that call for line combat duty. If any vet gets assigned to a combat zone they are still in danger of a bomb, a suicidal man or woman. And if they get stuck state-side or some-other safe zone they still back-up the combat force. Please remember that a Vet who spends 20 or 30 years in the service of our country and do have social security or any civilized financial plan(s). Please think of a Vet as a person with the same responsibility to family, and someone who defenses your comfortable life style. Service a tour before you judge.

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mooreje168 | November 11, 2011 at 5:31 p.m. ― 5 years, 4 months ago

I hope that Veterans Day never ever falls on a Friday again and I have to listen to 3 uninformed, ignorant and smug men spout there agenda ladened opinions on what they think it means to be a vet. KPBS and NPR please make at least a small attempt to educate your journalist's about basic military and DOD facts. It is a shame that people who listen to NPR expecting informed discussions will be mislead and misinformed by todays program. The inaccuracies in todays program are to numerous to list but a "zero" disability rating by the VA is not a valuable health benefit it just reflects that a injury happened to you on active duty. There is no money attached or service offered.

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no_soup_for_you | November 11, 2011 at 8:57 p.m. ― 5 years, 4 months ago

mooreje168, your post has little credibility. You write a big paragraph about how inaccurate the report was, but you don't name a single error in fact. Do you realize that not agreeing with someone's opinion is different from an "inaccuracy"?

If one says something is inaccurate, one should give examples, which you fail to do. Here is an example for you: If I were to say your post has basic grammatical mistakes, I would then support this statement with examples from your post such as, ".....smug men spout *there* agenda......" and, ".....*to* numerous to list......".

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Peking_Duck_SD | November 12, 2011 at 12:19 a.m. ― 5 years, 4 months ago

I agree with what they were saying - why should someone who sits in the U.S. working as a computer tech receive the same cushy benefits as someone who actually sees combat?

Trim the fat, if a military person does a non-risk job maybe their benefits shouldn't be as hefty as someone who actually risks their life.

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DonWood | November 12, 2011 at 10:16 p.m. ― 5 years, 4 months ago

This is not about veterans at all. It's about two egotistic developer/sailing buffs who want to build a skyscraper sized memorial to their own egos and the fact that they help fund Dennis Connor's America's Cup campaigns. Those aren't airplane wings, they are meant to represent sails. However, observers have described them as everything from giant bunny wings to the worlds biggest car hood ornament. Others have noted that "wings of freedom" sounds and looks like a feminine hygiene product, and have described the piece as a "titanium tampon". What your panel didn't discuss is the fact that the Midway Museum wants to cover the entire pier with a two story high parking garage that would block public views and access to the bay. That is the element of this proposal that's getting ignored by the media when discussing this issue. The Port is already in violation of the Port Master Plan and state coastal laws because it blocked public views over the Broadway Pier with a new cruise ship terminal. That is the issue that may kill this project when it goes before the California Coastal Commission. The giant bunny ears are just an an attempt to distract public attention from that fact.

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