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Vaccinated People Getting Whooping Cough In SD


Aired 9/7/10

A KPBS investigation has found that nearly two out of three people diagnosed with whooping cough in San Diego County this year were fully immunized. California is in the midst of the worst whooping cough epidemic in 50 years. The numbers raise questions about how well the vaccine works.

— A KPBS investigation has raised questions about how effective the whooping cough vaccine is in preventing people from getting sick. Nearly two out of three people diagnosed with whooping cough in San Diego County this year, were fully immunized.

California is in the midst of the worst whooping cough epidemic in 50 years. Thirty six hundred people in the state have been diagnosed with the disease. Eight babies have died since January.

KPBS examined data from San Diego County’s Health and Human Services Agency. Of the 332 confirmed cases of whooping cough in the county so far this year, 197 of the people who got sick were up to date with their immunizations. That's nearly 2 out of 3 cases.

Dean Sidelinger is the county’s deputy health officer.

“It’s a little higher then we expected, but certainly we do still feel the vaccine provides protection and it’s an important health tool to try and prevent this disease.”

Research in the Netherlands suggests the bacterium which causes whooping cough, or pertussis, may be mutating and contributing to whooping cough outbreaks worldwide.

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Avatar for user 'debeecole'

debeecole | September 7, 2010 at 9:14 a.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

This seems to be a very one-sided story.
The reporter fails to mention in her report is that in order for vaccinations to be effective that 80% of the population surrounding you needs to be vaccinated as well. A number of people in California don't get their children vaccinated because of Religious exemption.
Did anyone look into the cases of the vaccinated individuals that still got infected to see if their area or people surrounding them has a large amount of these religious exemptions?

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caitlannall | September 7, 2010 at 10:09 a.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

I completely agree debeecole.

My son was vaxxed and caught pertussis. Upon my research, I found that there were overwhelming numbers of ppl (in the area I live in) that are choosing not to vaccinate at all.

Very disturbing.

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hboooo | September 7, 2010 at 11:31 a.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

Thats right blame it on the folks who dont beleive the same thing as you. It must be their fault. The vaccines have to work. THE DOCTOR SAYS SO!!! If only everybody would just beleive. Gosh what is wrong with this people and their RELIGIOUS/PERSONAL BELEIF exemptions. They should be thrown into jail. Its obvious they are the carriers. If they dont want to fall in line they should be thrown into jail and their kids taken away for neglect?? I say that kids who havent been vaxxed should have to where a big sign on them that says my parents dont care about me and we should have seperate classes for them. I mean they are obviously going to have learning deficiancies and that could also spread if were not careful. We should have mobile clinics just in case some of those insurgent parents try and homeschool.


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tybye | September 7, 2010 at 12:04 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

What officials are not saying is that pertussis (whooping cough) outbreasks are cyclical and tend to peak every two to five years, regardless of the vaccination rate. Once again, this is a created hysteria to capitalize on fears of frightened parents and an opportunity to push vaccination on a trusting, underinformed public
Pertussis is most worrisome in children less than 3 months of age due to the small size of windpipe. As with any infection, the youngest children are at greatest risk of serious illness and rarely, death. IImportantly, pertussis is not always serious and rarely is it as 'deadly' as the pro-vaccine doctors and the evening news would have you believe. The hallmark of pertussis is a persistent cough which is frequently diagnosed and treated as "bronchitis". Unless you or (your children are SPECIFICALLY tested for pertussis with a nasal or throat swab, you may have had it and not known!
Your child can be fully vaccinated and still contract pertussis
Three vaccines are administered for whooping cough, from 2 to 6 months of age. Problems caused by the DTaP (pertussis) vaccines are real. If you search the VAERS database, you will see THOUSANDS of reports of children who were severely injured or died from the vaccine.
Please do your research DO NOT relay on our Gov't to provide us with the truth!
***so the assumption is that once a person is immunized they are no longer carriers of a particular disease? That would be false! Which brings me to the second thing, and that is that when we are vaccinated, it is possible to "shed" the vaccine (I've read about this in vaccine package inserts and various articles). So really, those dangerous "unvaccinated" people are sometimes the ones at risk of catching disease from the vaccinated ones, not the other way around.
Vaccinations are not full proff, some only offering about 60% protection. You don't find health through a needle!

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hboooo | September 7, 2010 at 12:38 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

tybye obvioulsy thinks way to much...they should be quarantined and sent to a re-education camp as quickly as possible.

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randolphslinky | September 7, 2010 at 2:47 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

Vaccinations work and are very safe, but as it was stated in the story diseases can mutate over time. Continuing research in combating disease using proper medical science is the smart approach - or you can just rely on clean water, organic food, a tin hat, and the advice of a former Playboy bunny.

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hboooo | September 7, 2010 at 3:35 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

" you can just rely on clean water, organic food, a tin hat, and the advice of a former Playboy bunny" or the advice of

Dr. Leonard Horowitz

@ randolphslinky
i thought you had enough of these debates??? The route of logic that you use insures that you can never be wrong. All your saying is, TRUST US we almost got it, just keep the faith. All the while more people getting sick while you work out the "Bugs" (pun intended).

How can they be safe when 2 out of 3 get sick...Thats just arrogant..if they done work because of mutating viruses then they DONT WORK because we all know that virusus mutate.. so until you can stop that your vaccines are garbage!!!

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billyandcolby | September 8, 2010 at 5:01 a.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

To debeecole and caitlannall: Your argument does not make sense...A vaccine will only work if everyone around you also has it. Either it works or it doesn't. If your vaccine doesn't work because you are near somebody with the illness, then it clearly isn't effective. You can't say a vaccine works because you have kept your child away from anyone having the virus...An unvaccinated child would have the same result.

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randolphslinky | September 8, 2010 at 8:52 a.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

Most people admire the intellectual achievements of others and many are deeply inspired by them. Some kids are motivated to get an education and enter the field to make their own contributions. But some people seem threatened or frightened by the achievements of others, even to the point of convincing themselves that humans are simply incapable of major scientific and technological achievements. Fortunately for those people there are antipsychotic drugs available.

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hboooo | September 8, 2010 at 12:13 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago


point well taken. So let me elaborate.

For example you claim that vaccines eliminated polio RIGHT??

Now polio is transfered via fecal matter. Mostly in the water. So with the advancements in technology that allowed us to not drink poop in water we stopped the spread of Polio. (Also with the help of soaps for washing after the bathroom.)

Nobody here is saying that this wonderful intellectual achievment is not worthy of praise in fact its quite the opposite. I would think most, if not everybody is happy for better plumbing and filtration.

However you say that the the eradication of polio was due to the vaccine and therefore negate these intellectual acheivements (plumbing and toilet paper). So in my eyes you have in fact proved your argument to be correct only it turns out that your the person that is afraid and threatened by the achievement of others.

Your suggesting that folks turn to antipsychotic drugs to deal with these very real issues is very telling for who you are working for.

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randolphslinky | September 8, 2010 at 12:46 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

Vaccines are an integral part of reducing and eliminating disease, along with good hygiene, diet, and rest. But if you think people are talking to you when they in fact are not, you might be suffering from schizophrenia.

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hboooo | September 8, 2010 at 1:50 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

First it was so we could get an education..
then it was so we could keep our ocupation
next it will be to take part in procreation
mecury and squalene inside the vaccination.
how can we trust these mega corporations
big pharma meet up at the council on foreign relations.
where they plot and scheme to turn the world into their patients.
agenda pushed through the world health organization.
they wanna give us 40 shots by the age of six.
then we wonder why are kids are autistic.
investing all our faith inside the FDA.
dont let them shoot you up with that monkey DNA.
for this medicine there is no time to test.
remember the swine flu pandemic.
Thomas glociers pockets steady gettin fat.
we might look like humans but to him were lab rats.

educate b4 u vaccinate!!!!!!!!!!!

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Avatar for user 'randolphslinky'

randolphslinky | September 8, 2010 at 2:18 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

The world you live in
Is inside your head
Without the right medication
The facts bring dread
Nursing your fears and
Twisting the facts
Your disease is hidden
And your stress becomes duress
One dimensional and mentally sluggish
You know you long to rest
Listen to one who knows better
And be clear
Go see your doctor
And take your Thorazine

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hubert | September 16, 2010 at 5:53 p.m. ― 6 years, 6 months ago

Whooping cough can be caused by pertussis or para pertussis. Cases of whooping cough are generally clinically confirmed without differentiating the bug that caused it (pertussis or para pertussis). There is no vaccine for para pertussis. So whether the kids are vaccinated or not - they have no protection against para pertussis.

Severe reactions to vaccines are real and inidividuals and families have to live with the resulting damage. Do your research - don't just dink the cool aid the TV doctors are offering you.

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Avatar for user 'MountainMama'

MountainMama | November 6, 2010 at 9:54 a.m. ― 6 years, 4 months ago

We should just give up our rights and freedoms, and just forcefully vaccinate everybody. If they dont want their vaccines, just stick them in prison. That'll keep us all safe from those free thinkers. Better yet they should make a vaccine that reduces our IQ just enough, that we cant think for ourselves.

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tatsu15 | January 15, 2011 at 1:07 a.m. ― 6 years, 2 months ago

It's the vaccinated ones that can also shed the virus onto unvaccinated persons fyi.

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