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County Supervisors Say ‘No’ To Legalizing Pot

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Aired 9/15/10

The San Diego County Board of Supervisors say they don't support Proposition 19, a ballot initiative that would legalize marijuana.

— San Diego County’s Board of Supervisors have said “no” to Proposition 19, a ballot initiative that would legalize marijuana in California. The board unanimously passed a resolution to oppose Prop. 19 at a meeting today.

“This is bad for our community, bad for our kids,” Supervisor Dianne Jacob said.

Jacob, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore and District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis authored the anti-Prop. 19 resolution.

“This poorly written proposition includes vague language and ill-conceived provisions that would result in a public health and public safety nightmare for California,” the resolution states.

Special Feature The Marijuana State

KPBS investigates Prop. 19, a ballot initiative that would make recreational use of marijuana legal and allow cities and counties to tax and regulate the sale of the drug. "The Marijuana State" will air Tuesday, Oct. 19 at 9 p.m. on KPBS Television.

Prop. 19 is on the November ballot. It proposes making recreational use of marijuana legal, and allowing cities and counties to tax and regulate the sale of the drug for commercial use.

District Attorney Dumanis opposes Prop 19 because she says it would create more problems for police.

“Just look at alcohol and prescription drugs and how they’re abused right now. It’s just a forbearer (sic) of what’s going to come in the future," said Dumanis.

If Prop. 19 passes, California would become the first state in the nation to legalize pot. Adults over age 21 would be allowed to grow and possess small amounts of cannabis, but could not use the drug around minors.

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Avatar for user 'hboooo'

hboooo | September 14, 2010 at 3:55 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Bad for our kids???

So adults, that pay their taxes, that live in a free REPUBLIC should have their rights stripped away from them because some people feel that it will be bad for their kids. Doesnt this just show how worried they are that they dont have a real relationship with their kids. (not that its easy to when they spend half the day away from them). That their kids dont listen to them. THAT THEY DONT HAVE the mental faculty to pass on information to their own flesh and blood.

How bout you talk to your kids. You know like really talk to them. Like everyday. Tell them what is really going on. Let them know what your fears are. Talk to them about what you think is right and wrong. TEACH THEM. Listen to them. How about you turn off the tvs and spend some quality time with your kids. If you think think that throwing people in jail for smoking a plant is going to make your kids safe your INSANE. IT WILL NEVER WORK. How bout you MAN up and start taking responsiblity for your family instead of pushing those responsibilites onto others. ITS NOT OTHERS PEOPLES FAULT.

This is the socialist mentality that we are being taught in schools though. That nobody is responsible for their own. Its all SOCIETIES fault. and if everybody would just ACT the same way we would live in a perfect utopian world. THIS IS A LIE!!! People need to be able to make their own choices and deal with their own consequences for good or for bad.

Its always about the kids right...just do it for the kids...for the kids sake...this is said by the same folks making a killing of throwing folks in jail...but NO THEY DO IF FOR THE KIDS....

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ChristopherKeil | September 14, 2010 at 5:08 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Just from a pure point of law, saying "This poorly written proposition ..." is being very generous. Prop 19 is one of the worst written I’ve ever seen. It is vague, describing amounts of legal possession as being “small”, which means nothing legally. It has no mechanisms for control, regulation or taxation. It wastes half of the nomenclature telling why the war on drugs isn’t working. A great dinner party conversation, but it isn’t applicable as law.

Frankly, it is an amateurish effort and if lawyers were involved in the Prop’s construction, they should turn in their state licenses. It does proponents a huge disservice. It could be easily overturned, tied up for years and year or overridden by federal regulation.

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commonsense | September 14, 2010 at 7:31 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

@hboooo: I agree with you that using kids is a specious argument. Conservative bullies abusing their power in a fascist manner.

@ChristopherKeil. Ballot initiates have to be vague, otherwise they are susceptible to attack for proposing more than one law. The Constitution is vague. Most laws are vague. It provides room for interpretation. We knew Dumanis wasn't going to like Prop 19. She is an enemy to medical marijuana, blatantly defying over 80% of the NATIONAL population who support it, let alone the residents of this state which passed the initiative over a decade ago. Opposition to marijuana decriminalization is ignorant. Opposition to medical marijuana is worse than ignorant. . . .

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sdcitizen | September 14, 2010 at 9:44 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

"District Attorney Dumanis opposes Prop 19 because she says it would create more problems for police.

“Just look at alcohol and prescription drugs and how they’re abused right now. It’s just a forbearer (sic) of what’s going to come in the future," said Dumanis."

Wow....Really this is a direct quote?

I can not believe this individual is our district attorney. Am I the only one that find these comments beyond absurd?

So by this logic we should make all prescription drugs illegal? As well as alcohol because of their potential for abuse?

So then to take this to the next step all foods that are high in sugars and fat should be made illegal as well because of their potential for abuse?

Wouldn't this be what we call a slippery slope argument which every 7th grader learns in speech and debate class as and example of how not to structure an argument because of it's inherent logical flaws?

I am embarrassed she holds an elected office. Personally I do not care if this drug is legal or illegal.

What I do care about now is the obvious level of ineptitude in our fiscally and intellectually bankrupt city and those elected officials who have taken us to this point.

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hboooo | September 14, 2010 at 10:06 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

@sdcitizen

u are not the only one that find these comments absurd...and your right these stripping of our right is a complete setup for future jack moves..

but dont worry its all for the good of the people..you know cause were all to stupid to know whats right for each one of us personally!!!! SIKE...

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nofootfaults | September 15, 2010 at 1:23 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Why did KPBS ask a city Supervisor and DA about this, instead of regular citizens? They are stakeholders in the status quo, biased against any changes that would liberate the rest of us. The last persons that should be asked about this issue in a public forum should be those charged with enforcing the current laws. Marijuana is a problem only because of the laws that say its use, distribution and sale are criminal, not because of any factors intrinsic to its use. Make it legal and all problems with it disappear. Of course, Bonnie Dumanis and the police would have less ability to harass the populace if that happened, and that's what they really don't like. My reading of history is that pot is only illegal in the US because a bunch of cops in the South believed they needed such laws so they could more easily harass and arrest the black people and jazz musicians they didn't like back in the 30's. Their success caught on with law enforcement, and their media blitz with propaganda and films like Reefer Madness conned the most of the public into accepting the limitation of their liberties on a national scale. It was a big con job. The removal of those laws is the next human rights issue.

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tij | September 15, 2010 at 8:04 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

There is hope in mankind. Thank you for being socially responsible. Sometimes, we can't get everything in life because we have the responsibility to protect the children (young vulnerable precious minds) of the future. The children will know that our generation cared about their future and health.

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randolphslinky | September 15, 2010 at 8:44 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Our country is going to pot anyway, we may as well allow the people to smoke it.

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tij | September 15, 2010 at 9:59 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Marijuana, for any use, is illegal under the Federal Law.

John Adams, our Founding Father said the following:

Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.

John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776

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ginpb | September 15, 2010 at 10:17 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Join the Green Movement & Vote YES on Prop 19!!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/YesOnCAProp19

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tij | September 15, 2010 at 10:17 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Alexander Hamilton, our Founding Father said

The local interest of a State ought in every case to give way to the interests of the Union. For when a sacrifice of one or the other is necessary, the former becomes only an apparent, partial interest, and should yield, on the principle that the smaller good ought never to oppose the greater good.

Alexander Hamilton, speech to the New York Ratifying Convention, June, 1788

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hboooo | September 15, 2010 at 10:34 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

@ TIJ If you knew the history of the criminalization of hemp you would know it had nothing to do with saftey of the people and all to do with the PROFIT of the petrochemical companies. If your worried about your kids precious young mind I advise you to lock them in the cellar. Definantly do not drive them down the highway where they will be introduced to all types of vulgarities and toxins. The only way to insure that your child is safe is to install the proper values in them. This has everything to do with being moral and just not hypocritical and one sided.

I do agree with you thought that we the people have the right to reform the laws for our own prosperity....and REFORM THEM WE SHALL DO!!!!!!

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tij | September 15, 2010 at 10:39 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

George Washington, our Founding Father said...

It should be the highest ambition of every American to extend his views beyond himself, and to bear in mind that his conduct will not only affect himself, his country, and his immediate posterity; but that its influence may be co-extensive with the world, and stamp political happiness or misery on ages yet UNBORN.

George Washington, letter to the Legislature of Pennsylvania, September 5, 1789

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hboooo | September 15, 2010 at 11:39 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither-Ben franklin

So what do you choose?

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Joanne Faryon, KPBS Staff | September 15, 2010 at 11:45 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Hello Everyone,

I want to let you know this is only the beginning of our Prop 19 coverage. We will have a special web page,(www.kpbs.org/marijuana - live on Monday Sept20th) radio reports, TV reports and a special TV documentary airing Oct 19 at 9 pm on this subject.
I also want to get your comments on video. Beginning Monday, you'll have a chance to voice your opinion and upload your video to our site. It may end up on the TV special. I also want you to know, you will hear both sides of the argument throughout our coverage. I will keep you posted.
Thanks for all your comments,
Joanne Faryon
Joanne Faryon

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randolphslinky | September 15, 2010 at 11:49 a.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were bright men, and proof of that among other reasons was their decision to grow and use hemp.

For more interesting facts on the history of marijuana go to Illuminati-News.com

Exam your life, and stay out of mine, thank you.

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hboooo | September 15, 2010 at 12:07 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

maybe the US should say no to OPIUM...

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smiles2u | September 15, 2010 at 4:17 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

@TIJ here are some quotes to add to your list...

"Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."
George Washington's 1794 note to Mt. Vernon's gardener

"Hemp is of first necessity....to the wealth and protection of the country." Thomas Jefferson (1791)

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smiles2u | September 15, 2010 at 4:21 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

Hey another great quote by another great mind:

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
- Albert Einstein

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smiles2u | September 15, 2010 at 4:24 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

@Joanne Faryon Sounds great! I look forward to your coverage!

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fallofrome | September 17, 2010 at 1:32 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

The founding fathers were hemp growers and even smokers.tij, you ARE being called out.

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hboooo | September 18, 2010 at 12:41 p.m. ― 4 years, 1 month ago

they wont respond because they are WRONG!!!!!

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studentwondering | October 19, 2010 at 2:51 a.m. ― 4 years ago

The founding fathers did not support a 2 party system

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studentwondering | October 19, 2010 at 2:56 a.m. ― 4 years ago

They would be ashamed of the behavior of our government. I imagine they would support contention of the establishment. This law, if passed, is going to really stir the mixing pot. yea on 19

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