skip to main content

Listen

Read

Watch

Schedules

Programs

Events

Give

Account

Donation Heart Ribbon

What California’s Orca Bill Would Mean For San Diego’s SeaWorld

Evening Edition

Aired 3/10/14 on KPBS Midday Edition.

GUESTS:

Naomi Rose, Ph.D., Marine Mammal Scientist, Animal Welfare Institute

Miro Copic, SDSU Marketing Professor

A state lawmaker is introducing legislation that would ban SeaWorld from using orcas in its San Diego shows.

Assemblyman Richard Bloom, D-Santa Monica, said he was being driven by allegations of animal abuse made in the disputed documentary "Blackfish."

"There is no justification for the continued captive display of orcas for entertainment purposes," Bloom said in remarks prepared for the bill's release Friday. "These beautiful creatures are much too large and far too intelligent to be confined in small, concrete tanks for their entire lives."

SeaWorld executives have adamantly denied animal abuse allegations, along with accusations that they do not do enough to protect the trainers who work with killer whales, which can live up to 80 years, grow to 32 feet in length and weigh up to six tons.

SeaWorld San Diego released a statement that called the attendees scheduled to appear alongside Bloom at a late-morning news conference "well-known extreme animal rights activists, many of whom regularly campaign against SeaWorld and other accredited marine mammal parks and institutions."

Some in the group have suggested animals in human care should be considered slaves under the 13th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, according to the theme park's statement.

SeaWorld officials said the planned legislation "appears to reflect the same sort of out-of-the-mainstream thinking."

They noted that SeaWorld already operates under multiple federal, state and local animal welfare laws, and "engage(s) in business practices that are responsible, sustainable and reflective of the balanced values all Americans share."

"Blackfish" explores the 2010 death of trainer at SeaWorld Orlando who was drowned by an orca. Since Dawn Brancheau's death, trainers have not been allowed back into the water with the orcas.

Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez said on Facebook she's been concerned about what goes on at the park for several years since her days working with labor.

"This bill isn't about closing or banning Sea World, just one of their shows," Gonzalez wrote on Facebook.

In an open letter, SeaWorld accused Blackfish filmmakers of using emotionally manipulative sequences and relying on animal rights activists masquerading as scientists and former SeaWorld employees with little experience working with killer whales.

Bloom's proposal has three central objectives, according to U-T San Diego: end the use of performing orcas in theme shows, ban captive breeding and prohibit the import and export of the so-called killer whales. It does not seek to prevent SeaWorld from maintaining an orca exhibit so long as it is done in more of an aquarium-like setting.

David Perle, of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, said it was time to recognize that orcas and dolphins are held captive at SeaWorld and do not belong there.

"Their containment in pitiful swimming pools instead of great oceans and in isolation instead of pods condemns our own race's greed and obliviousness," Perle said. "At SeaWorld and other animal abusement parks, these once-magnificent beings are separated from their families -- including babies who are torn from their mothers' sides -- and can swim only in endless circles between concrete walls, the constant stress of confinement driving them to lash out violently in frustration at each other and their human captors."

He said PETA and its supporters want SeaWorld to retire the orcas to a seaside sanctuary.

"This bill has the potential to end the deep injustice of exhibitions of captive marine life," Perle said.

KPBS' Maureen Cavanaugh, Patty Lane and Peggy Pico contributed to the Midday and Evening Edition segments.

Comments

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 7, 2014 at 8:52 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Richard D Bloom (D) Santa Monica is someone I've never heard of before, but he is now one of my favorite legislatures.

All I can say is THANK YOU for FINALLY taking a fist step in a shameful and continual abuse of animals that has been allowed to fester for years at the animal prison/work camp known as Sea World.

We must bombard our local representatives to support this bill that Mr. Bloom is proposing.

Yes, there will still be problems.

Orcas will still be kept in small tanks unable to swim the long distances their bodies and instincts are geared for, but at least they will no longer be forced to perform circus tricks at whim for a bunch of screaming people.

I'm so happy that action is finally being taken and Sea World is finally being exposed for what it is - it's not a happy place. It's not a family place. It's a macabre prison ghetto of sea mammals who have either themselves been extracted from the wild or their ancestors extracted to breed on-demand and reside in sub-par conditions for the sole purpose of providing circus-Maximus type entertainment.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Chris West'

Chris West | March 7, 2014 at 9:34 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Sea World is desperate and will say or do anything to protect its bottom line. Want to learn how orcas are meant to live? The real "Sea World" is right off of our coast. Would aliens studying humans look at them out in society or in prison? Sea World, wake up already! The tide of public opinion has turned against your big-time. Expect a giant propaganda fight by this soulless and greedy corporation. They will surely try to buy legislators as well. Moneyed and selfish interests do that all of the time.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'thompsonrichard'

thompsonrichard | March 7, 2014 at 10:04 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Sea World is too dependent on that one big show.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 7, 2014 at 10:57 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

This is insane. Why don't all of these people scream and cry out against mouse traps and ant or roach poison? That is also torture and cruelty. Why aren't all animals equal?

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'moneil2014'

moneil2014 | March 7, 2014 at 11:03 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

I salute you Richard Bloom. Can you imagine living 80 years in a room the size of your bedroom and never being able to go beyond its borders? Would you not go completely mad too? Of course Sea World hides behind the excuse that their programs teach conservation and appreciation to a mass audience that would not otherwise have that exposure. This is a lame defense - these shows are pure entertainment (about 10% is educational at all) and for what these folks spend for entry, they can pay to go out on a boat and appreciate them in their wild habitat - not in a tank!!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'moneil2014'

moneil2014 | March 7, 2014 at 11:14 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

By the way if you really want to suport Richard Bloom and the hopeful passage of this legislation go to his website and let him know!! I just did!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'no_soup_for_you'

no_soup_for_you | March 7, 2014 at 11:30 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

SeaWorld is not an education center. It's not a marine research facility. It's not a conservation group. It's a for-profit corporation that relies on animal cruelty to make money. Why don't they use their full name one all their signs and propaganda:

SeaWorld Entertainment Inc.
On the NYSE they are known as SEAS.

Why is this relevant? Because SeaWorld executives don't have welfare of animals on ocean ecology as their number one goal. Their number one goal is to make sure shares of SEAS sell for as much as possible, and if doing this requires treating animals poorly, by God SeaWorld will. And they have.

I hope we see this horror park shut it's doors in San Diego in the very near future. Let the Orca's that have already been victimized live out their lives in larger sea pens, and most importantly put a stop to the cycle of abuse that SeaWorld has been involved in for generations of Orcas with their breeding programs.

I will do whatever it takes to support this bill and agree with moneil2014, we need to let the decision makers know the citizens of San Diego don't support this type of animal cruelty in our back yard.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 7, 2014 at 11:38 a.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Lol, Jean - I hope your argument is the one the Sea World Whale Slave Keepers decide to go with. I'm sure that will work out nicely for them.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 7, 2014 at 12:15 p.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

I am sorry but whales are not humans. They are not slaves, they are livestock. I will never understand the mentality of PETA types.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 7, 2014 at 12:42 p.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

You don't need to be human to have feelings both physical and emotional.

The argument that it's ok to keep these whales in inadequately small takes and force them to perform circus tricks simply because they are "not human" is rubbish.

Can I go around kicking and beating dogs just because they "aren't human"?

Should we let poachers continue to butcher elephants to make statues out of their tusks simply because they "aren't human"?

You are entitled to your opinion Jean, but I believe most people would agree that animals have certain rights not to be abused in any civil society.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 7, 2014 at 2:02 p.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Was looking around the internet at articles related to this and am seeing the following promising things:

- Lorena Gonzalez of San Diego has said on Facebook she will vote in favor of this.

- Sea World stock fell 5% just on news this bill is coming. Can you imagine if it passes? Poetic justice that the same cruel behavior that has made this corporation rich will now be what causes their ruin.

- in general, from what I see on a wide stray of websites is that people overwhelmingly support this idea and think what Sea World is doing is wrong. This issue transcends politics - liberals, conservatives, young people, old people all realize that keeping this animals in such conditions and forcing them to do circus acts is simply wrong.

Sea World in its current "business model" is something our society is not longer willing to find acceptable.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 7, 2014 at 2:33 p.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Sure, no one likes animal abuse, but Orcas are not being abused at Seaworld. Don't believe everything you saw in Blackfish, that was an amazingly one-sided mockumentary. A complete distortion of facts through clever video editing.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 7, 2014 at 3:06 p.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

I have seen Blackfish twice

I have read SeaWorld's concerns about the film

I have listened to and read interviews done with Orca experts and with the documentary's director, including this one on KPBS:

I've seen, heard, and read enough to conclude the documentary is solid.

One thing I find most curious is that people involved in the documentary Blackfish have put themselves out there. They are willing to go on news shows like KPBS and directly answer their critic's concerns. They are also willing to attend forums with whale experts and discuss the film. They are even willing to defend their film directly with SeaWorld officials.

SeaWorld, however, will not attend any public forums and defend their position directly with orca experts or with people who made the documentary. All their responses to this documentary have been done through carefully choreographed press releases that have been vetted through teams of high-priced corporate lawyers.

So WHO has something to hide?

WHO is the dirty one here?

It's SeaWorld.

Tell me Jean, if the makers of this documentary are willing to publicly defend their film with SeaWorld officials, then why is SeaWorld to scared to have this conversation?

It's because they know the documentary is solid, it's valid. And, they also know it would be embarrassing for SeaWorld to have any presence in a public forum where whale experts are present because SeaWorld cannot defend their actions.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 7, 2014 at 4:30 p.m. ― 5 months, 3 weeks ago

In the end, animals are animals. Pigs, cows, chickens, they live their whole life confined to a small area. Orcas are not special, they are the same as any other animal no matter how anthropomorphic people are about whales.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'sdreefer21'

sdreefer21 | March 9, 2014 at 1:47 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Glad our lawmakers have time to handle such trivial issues in rehards to our budget woes. Ill remember this criminal waste of time. Peta stop lobbying for stuff that has no positive effect on humans. You are wasting our elected officials precious time. They have hookers, "meetings", and bills to read. Oh wait they dont even read the bills or laws. anymore.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | March 9, 2014 at 5:11 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Assemblyman Bloom will be elevated to hero in California if this bill is successful.

This bill will say to the world, California protects the least among us from corporate exploitation and abuse.

No greater quality in a society exists.

Makes me proud to be CALIFORNIAN!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 10, 2014 at 8:50 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

sdreefer21 I am with you 100%

This is asinine.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | March 10, 2014 at 9:15 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Santa Monica. It figures it would be some guy with a lot of free time on their hands!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | March 10, 2014 at 9:31 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

@QUACKSTER, BlackFish Exposed by Former SeaWorld Trainers - MiceChatmicechat.com › Features‎Cached
Share
View shared post
Jan 9, 2014 - Although I was asked by the director if I could provide an interview for the ..... The real truth is, the people who made Blackfish lied about what ...

Notice it did not even get a feature documentary Oscar nom from the usual "liberal" Academy crowd. Sounds to me like the Academy was spekptical.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 10, 2014 at 10:27 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

People who think the constitution applies to animals need to check themselves into a mental hospital. Imagine if they told Thomas Jefferson that. He would probably challenge them to an immediate duel in the street.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'MaoTzu'

MaoTzu | March 10, 2014 at 12:41 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

We are animals, just imagine what Jefferson would say if someone would have told him that he couldn't own people and treat them however he chose.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 10, 2014 at 12:57 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Mission, much like the climate change debate, you can certainly find quotes from people who claim Blackfish is "all lies", but look at what the experts say.

People who study these animals overwhelmingly agree that keeping these whales captive as circus acts is not mentally or physically good for them, despite what a few paid-off people by SeaWorld think.

Regardless of what you feel about Blackfish, use your own common sense - keeping intelligent mammals who are genetically built to swim in pods over vast expanses of ocean are kept in comparatively tiny tanks and forced to perform circus tricks at whim for screaming throngs of people.

You honestly think that isn't harmful to these creatures?

You can make claims about Blackfish or try and make excuses for SeaWorld's profiting off of animal torture, but in the end anyone who defends SeaWorld as not being cruel to these animals is (1) woefully ignorant or (2) simply doesn't care.

As much as I detest Jean's comments, at least he is being honest - he simply doesn't think these animals should have any rights and he thinks SeaWorld's economic impact is more important than how they treat the orcas.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 10, 2014 at 12:58 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Now, let's hear SeaWorld's executives come out and be honest - tell the world money is more important than the welfare of the circus animals you keep.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'sdreefer21'

sdreefer21 | March 10, 2014 at 1:47 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Yes money and jobs are more important than a few whales. Do you think this is any differwnt than keeping a hersing dog locked up while you go to work??

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | March 10, 2014 at 2:19 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

JM,

Jefferson would have likely supported this bill. He believed deeply in natural rights, was a vegetarian (for his time), and viewed humans as just another animal species (and the most vicious one of all).

He was a very forward thinker and way ahead of his time.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | March 10, 2014 at 2:30 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Let's all not forget who owns Sea World.

The largest private equity investment firm in the world:

The shadowy Blackstone Group.

All profit, no conscience.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 10, 2014 at 2:49 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Peking - Why don't you ask the dairy farmer, pork farmer, chicken farmer, fish farmer etc if money is more important than the welfare of an animal. Of course it is. Animals are not important like humans. They are alive, but so are plants. Humans are the only living things that deserve special consideration. The rest are here for our food, clothing, transportation, entertainment, or other uses.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 10, 2014 at 4:59 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

So Jean, you feel that there should be no laws whatsoever protecting animals?

You think people should be able to poach elephants for ivory until they simply vanish from the planet?

You think CA was stupid for succeffully saving the condor?

You think people who starve and physically abuse their pets should be allowed to do so with no legal consequences?

Obviously eliminating the suffering of animals entirely is not going to happen - but why does that mean this bill is wrong? Your argument seems to be that since we poison rats and eat cows then we shouldn't care about any animal rights abuses at all? I fail to see the logic in that. Trust me, I do realize SeaWorld is not the only place out there that abuses animals for money, but we need to take these things incrementally.

I feel circuses should be banned as well.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 10, 2014 at 5:03 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

It should be noted that the LA Times has quoted both Mayor Faulconer and interim Mayor/Councilmember Gloria as supporting SEAWORLD and not this bill.

Shame on both of them.

I don't know what Mr. Gloria's problem is lately, but he has been on the wrong side of virtually every issue.

animal rights - he favors SeaWorld's money over the welfare of the whales

medical marijuana - he proposed a joke solution that basically takes access away from the urban areas of the city

government transparency - he decided on his way out as interim mayor to start deleting city emails after 1 year so we would have no records of them if a scandal brews later on

Is he a Log-Cabin Republican? It seems the only issue he is actually progressive on these days is gay rights, which is good of course, but there are plenty of other important issues.

I really hope Gloria shapes-up and quits being such a corporate hack, I am losing a tremendous amount of respect for him lately.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'sdreefer21'

sdreefer21 | March 10, 2014 at 6:13 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Peking your argument is weak. A few whales out of how many exist?? Humans are more importnt than any one other species period. We are the only species capable of protecting our own existance. While beautiful and exotic; the orcas will soon fade into memory as we grow and multiply. As the highest order of species on the planet we will grow and consume all available resources until this planet is destroyed. Hopefully we will be able to find another planet but greed kills most humans. So we will be destined to be outlived by insects.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | March 10, 2014 at 11:02 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

What is it with the recent love affair with predators??? I really don't understand. Will someone PLEASE explain it to me??? A lot of post-Carson, post-New Left people seem to forget that Nature can be cruel and vicious. Why perpetrate that? Not everything in Nature is "good." Have people seen video of these whales eating live seal pups??? Every day we slaughter millions of herbivores as it is and keep them confined until their fateful hour! I want to strangle those silly individuals who package "cage free" poultry! Well, they still get slaughtered, don't they??? You would have to be a vegetarian like myself to see the hypocrisy, I guess. NO ONE is slaughtering Shamu or Namu here. Even the bull in a bullring gets to live if he puts up a strong resistance! The hen on a conveyor belt out there somewhere in the Midwest has no such luck.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 7 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

It's interesting that opponents to this bill can't debate it without throwing out the kitchen sink of animal rights. It's not a perfect world, and animal mistreatment occurs in many forms, but using that as an excuse to allow the mistreatment of whales for entertainment and profit by SeaWorld is idiotic.

When PETA protests fur, the imbeciles say what about eating meat? They don't care about livestock.

When people criticize the cattle slaughter industry, the imbeciles say what about the chickens. They don't care about chickens.

When people boycott KFC and the like over mistreatment of chickens, the imbeciles say what about the cows? They don't care about the cows.

When people criticize SeaWorld's mistreatment of orcas - well read through the posts. The rights of ants, hens, and roaches to name a few have all been mentioned in argument against this bill.

It's a silly and immature tactic.

I guess since I killed a spider in the shower two weeks ago then I have no right to be concerned about SeaWorld's mistreatment of animals.

What a farse.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 11, 2014 at 8:42 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Peking there is a difference between slaughtering endangered animals for ivory and having 2 whales held in captivity to educate and entertain millions of people.

I would like to know why you think some animals are more important than others. Is this just based on their cuteness?

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 9:36 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Jean, to your first point:
Why do you think a slow death is any better than a quick slaughter? No Orcas at SeaWorld have dies of old age. They die prematurely from being held in captivity. The average life-span of orcas in captivity is less than their counterparts in the wild, and their mortality rates are higher.

To your second point:
I don't think some animals are more important than others, this is about reality. Not every animal and insect on the planet can realistically be protected. Orcas can - they are being exploited for profit by SeaWorld. I have supported many different animal rights issues, not only this one so your comment about "cuteness" makes no sense.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 9:43 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

By the way, did you even bother listening to what Dr. Naomi Rose said in this piece, or are you just posting out of emotion because you hate animal rights activists?

Ms. Rose is a well-respected Marine Mammal Scientist who supports this bill, and she articulated her reasons very well. Why don't you try listening to her and then come back and argue about why you know more than she does, why she's a hypocrite because she swatted a fly once, accuse her of only lbeing interested in this because whales are "cute" and whatever other ridiculous arguments you can come up with to try and demean someone who has devoted their entire life to the study of these creatures.

Let's see here, who to believe hmmmmm.

A well-resepcted marine mammal scientist who has studied orcas both in the wild and in captivity for many years, or SeaWorld's corporate hacks who will lose a lot of money if they lose their hallmark circus act.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Know what, I'm going with Ms. Rose on this one.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 11, 2014 at 10:16 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

So how do you choose which animals are important and which are not? The choice is based on personal opinion. Why is your opinion more correct than mine? I think ants should be protected as much as whales.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 11:04 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

No, you don't think ants are important. You step on them and kill them all the time, and you probably burned them with a lens or set their homes on fire with gasoline when you were a kid. You are just trying to bog this discussion down with ridiculousness to take attention away from the dialogue profiteering animal prison that is SeaWorld.

Any I didn't "choose" which animals are important.

A lawmaker in the state legislature decided regulations regarding orcas kept in captivity are needed and I agree with the bill as proposed.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 11, 2014 at 11:19 a.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Why don't you feel the same passion about ant farms? These are animals held in captivity until they die. And how can you tell me what I think is important or not?

I can just as easily tell you that you don't really think whales are more important than ants. So in the end it comes down to opinion. You think whales are important, I do not. I don't understand why your feeling is the correct feeling.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 12:56 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Jean, I'll ask you a second time - did you listen to the interview that included Dr. Rose?

He clearly explained that some animals do better in captivity than others.

This doesn't have anything to do with "cuteness", "favoritism", or any other conspiracy theories.

I know you think you have a gotcha moment with this any crusade, by you don't.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 12:57 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

*She, not he

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 11, 2014 at 12:58 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

*ANT crusade

Grrrrr autocorrect

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Cody'

Cody | March 11, 2014 at 1:03 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Actually, that's a good point. I had an ant farm once, and it came with the option of setting it up so that the ants were free to come and go, to go gather food and take care of their business, but set up shop between the panes of glass for my entertainment and education.

Would the orcas do that if we gave them the choice?

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JeanMarc'

JeanMarc | March 11, 2014 at 3:30 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Yes I listened to the interview. Sure, some animals do better in captivity than others. But I believe animals are not really important, so I don't understand why your belief takes precedence over mine. I think all animals are living things that don't really matter. I do not want species to go extinct, but I also don't think it matters if we have two orcas at sea world. If they were under extreme duress they would not be performing in shows, they would languish and die in a few days.

Cody I think if we opened the whales cage to the ocean, they would surely return to their source of easy food time and time again.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'riselah1'

riselah1 | March 12, 2014 at 12:16 p.m. ― 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Great interview

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Ampu92'

Ampu92 | March 24, 2014 at 3:53 p.m. ― 5 months ago

Let's make a human zoo! I bet we would love it (: We'll call it Humanworld! You can see all the races there and it will be a really enriching and educational experience.

Just kidding..... But how are there so many heartless people in the world? Is it just because they're conditioned while young to believe they are so better than the rest of life? Humans are not important to the world. They only destroy. I truly admire our ability to understand the world and make amazing discoveries, but then we exploit this consciousness and knowledge for money and power. And money is just a made up thing. Paper and electronic numbers... Sometimes I wish humans would just all die off and leave life alone to just live.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Ampu92'

Ampu92 | March 24, 2014 at 4:24 p.m. ― 5 months ago

Sorry that was a tad off topic. It wasn't influenced by the interview, it was mostly a reaction to Jean's comments and some others. I find them disturbing.

And to Peking Duck, you are awesome! I love that you have commented so much. It makes me feel like the good could win! Even though there's so much more evil and ignorant people in the world (my opinion from experience) the good will speak louder and we shall have justice!! We are more motivated than the bad guys. (:

And a side note about when you said "breed on-demand". Seaworld actually does not breed their aquatic animals. They actually artificially inseminate them. They pretty much just jack off their animals, collect the sperm and then inject the sperm into the female... That way they can make more animals and don't have to wait for the animals to get in the mood. Isn't that weird/really disgusting?? All for money too. ):

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | March 24, 2014 at 5:02 p.m. ― 5 months ago

Ampu92, thanks for your kind comments :-)

Unfortunately, it comes down to money - and SeaWorld is awash in it.

They pay $14 million in rent to the city each year, and this is why we see city officials, including the mayor, pandering to them and declaring March "SeaWorld" month.

It's very unfortunate that our city leadership values profit above morals.

SeaWorld is a CORPORATION.

I haven't heard of any government entity declaring "Bank of America Month" or "Walmart Month", or "Koch Industries Month".

Not only is SeaWorld a for-profit corporation (as opposed to a non-profit educational or research institution) it has actually been nominated as one of the worst corporations in America:

http://consumerist.com/2014/03/19/comcast-abercrombie-chase-victorious-in-first-day-of-worst-company-competition/

I stumbled upon this contest online, and it puts SeaWorld in direct competition with some of the most corrupt, parasitic, greedy corporate institutions in the world.

And our city still chooses to use tax payer money to feature SeaWorld in tourism advertisements and to spenc precious time at city hall naming months after this place.

It's shameful and embarrassing and is soiling the reputation of our city.

The one thing you and anyone else who wants the Bloom bill to pass can do is call and/or write to Ms. Toni Atkins.

She is from San Diego and is now the most powerful person in the state legislature, and her stance on this bill can make a tremendous amount of difference.

While she has not come out in favor or against, she took the very troubling step last week of attending SeaWorld’s propaganda festivities.

The public MUST let Ms. Atkins know that we are watching this closely and we want her to support this measure. She is a reasonable person, but I'm afraid SeaWorld's lobbyists are putting huge economic pressure on her.

Please contact her today and encourage her to support Mr. Blooms bill to end the exploitation of orcas in this state!!!!!

Toni Atkins:

Capitol Office:
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0078
Tel: (916) 319-2078
Fax: (916) 319-2178

District Office:
1350 Front St., Room 6054
San Diego, CA 92101
Tel: (619) 645-3090
Fax: (619) 645-3094

( | suggest removal )