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Gov. Brown Makes ‘Yes on 30’ Campaign Stop In San Diego

Evening Edition

Above: Richard Rider, chairman of San Diego Tax Fighters, and Murtaza Baxamusa, secretary-treasurer of Middle Class Taxpayers Association-San Diego, talk to KPBS about Governor Jerry Brown's tax initiative.

Aired 8/20/12 on KPBS Midday Edition.

Guests

Kyla Calvert, KPBS Education Reporter will join us from the Governor's Proposition 30 rally

Richard Rider, chairman of San Diego Tax Fighters.

Murtaza Baxamusa, Secretary-Treasurer, Middle Class Taxpayers Association-San Diego

Transcript

KPBS Evening Edition

Gov. Jerry Brown Visits San Diego

Aired 8/20/12 on KPBS News.

California Gov. Jerry Brown wants you to vote "Yes on 30" in November. He is scheduled to speak in front of San Diego City College on Monday in his campaign to win voters for his tax initiative.

Governor Jerry Brown speaks in San Diego to campaign for his tax initiative, Proposition 30.
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Above: Governor Jerry Brown speaks in San Diego to campaign for his tax initiative, Proposition 30.

Gov. Jerry Brown today warned that failure to pass his tax measure in November will result in "devastating cuts'' to the state's education system that will mean "we don't have a future.''

"'Yes' will invest in our schools,'' Brown said in a campaign speech at San Diego City College on the first day of classes. "'No' results in devastating cuts.''

Proposition 30 would temporarily increase sales taxes and raise income taxes on higher-income residents. Brown said the measure to help finance education from kindergarten through community college, provides voters a clear choice.

"If we don't invest in our schools, don't invest in our colleges - we don't have a future,'' he said.

The ballot measure would increase the sales tax by a quarter-cent for four years and raise income taxes on annual earnings over $250,000 for seven years.

"We're asking those who've been most fortunate, who've done the best, to give back just a little bit, to share so that our schools don't get cut back,'' said Brown.

Officials say 89 percent of the revenues from Proposition 30 would be devoted to schools from kindergarten through 12th grade and the other 11 percent to community colleges. The measure would also guarantee funding for public safety services shifted from state to local governments.

Proposition 30 would generate an additional $6 billion in state tax revenues from the 2012-2013 through 2016-17 fiscal years, according to an estimate from the Legislative Analyst's Office and Director of Finance Ana J.

Matosantos. Smaller amounts would be generated in the 2017-18 and 2018-19 fiscal years.

"Proposition 30 on the November ballot is going to be a critical moment for all of us,'' said Constance M. Carroll, San Diego Community College District chancellor. "We need to begin building those classes back.''

Carroll warned that if the measure, "Our district will be forced by the California Legislature to reduce another 7,000 classes. Another 20,000 students would be turned away.''

Professor William Steward of SDCC said there "is no place left to cut. Prop. 30 is going to stop this tragic process of cutting at all costs.''

Jim King, a Ramona Unified School District groundskeeper for 35 years, said schools in his district are in deplorable shape, having cut back 25 percent of classified employees the past four years. "Students don't deserve this,'' he said. "My kids don't deserve this. My grand kids don't deserve this. We're asking you as voters to step up and pass Prop. 30 to put the schools back on track.''

If the measure is rejected by the voters, "trigger cuts'' would be made to the state budget.

Brown has called Proposition 30 "modest, fair and temporary.''

"It won't solve all of the state's problems, but it will help dig us out of a deep hole and protect our schools until the recovery is complete,'' Brown said in May as he presented his revised state budget proposal.

John Kabateck, executive director of the National Federation of Independent Business/California, said earlier that the initiative's "huge tax increases will destroy our small businesses and cost us jobs.''

"This measure simply gives the politicians in Sacramento more tax money to spend on pet projects, like pensions and the high speed train to nowhere,'' Kabateck said.

A second measure that would increase taxes to help finance education will also be on the Nov. 6 ballot. Proposition 38 would increase personal income tax rates for 12 years for annual earnings over $7,316 using a sliding scale from 0.4 percent for the lowest individual earners to 2.2 percent for individuals earning more than $2.5 million.

During the first four years, 60 percent of revenues would go to schools from kindergarten through 12th grade, 30 percent to repaying state debt and 10 percent to early childhood programs. Thereafter, 85 percent of revenues would go to schools from kindergarten through 12th grade and 15 percent to early childhood programs.

If both measures are approved by voters, the one getting the most yes votes would prevail.

Comments

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | August 20, 2012 at 1:24 p.m. ― 2 years ago

Gov. Jerry Brown,

Why are you punishing ALL Californians rather than fixing the budget mess your Legislature has created?

Why do you want to raise our sales tax rate to the HIGHEST in the nation?

Why are you playing a shell game with Californians as you know the money from this tax hike will NOT go to education.

NO on 30: Sacramento doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.


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astrofan | August 20, 2012 at 2:36 p.m. ― 2 years ago

$50 million plus a year for illegal alien college grants. Billions for the "high" speed rail boondoogle. Millions in raises for University presidents. No Jerry, you' re not taking one more cent from me. I'm taxed out.

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astrofan | August 20, 2012 at 2:54 p.m. ― 2 years ago

"Maintain our education and quality of life." Our education is currently the rated in the bottom 20%. Our teachers are the second highest paid teachers in the US. If you reduced their salary 20% they would still be the second highest teachers in the US. Oh, and the drop out rate is 50%.

Quality of life--top three US highest income tax, sales tax, and gas tax. And a boat load of "fees" on top of that. Again, I'm tapped out.

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terramater | August 20, 2012 at 3:49 p.m. ― 2 years ago

Just like so many of us who have had to learn to live with less income, so should our bloated government.

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llk | August 20, 2012 at 3:51 p.m. ― 2 years ago

So, because our schools are in bad shape, we need to cut them by 6 billion dollars? Doesn't make sense.

I have no problem paying higher taxes to prevent any additional cuts to California's education system. I will defend Californian students by voting YES on 30.

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CaliforniaDefender | August 20, 2012 at 4:17 p.m. ― 2 years ago

Ilk,

You're not defending Californian students, you're punishing them. None of the revenues from the tax hike will go to education as it goes into the general fund.

Brown was caught by the San Francisco Chronicle in March complaining about the Millionaire's Tax (Prop 38 - a competing Democrat sponsored education bill) that it earmarks all money for education. Brown found that to be appalling and argued that his plan would help fix California's multibillion dollar deficit.

See?

Brown wants to use the money for whatever he pleases and is using education as an excuse to get people to open their wallets.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 20, 2012 at 11:28 p.m. ― 2 years ago

San Diego is a strange political beast.

Fairly moderate on social issues, left leaning on environmental issues, but radically far right when it comes to taxation.

I'm not in favor of raising taxes to fix every problem, but some problems can only be fixed through taxation.

Mr. Rider did bring up an excellent point that both Democrats and Republicans ignore: prison spending.

It's outrageous.

The United States is not the land of the free, we are the world's prison state.

We have more people in prison per capita than any other nation on earth.

A larger percentage of our population is in prison than in:

Russia

China

North Korea

Iran

And California spends like an out of control fiend on jailing people, and our crime statistics have not improved.

The entire system needs to be overhauled, and our out of control legislatures need to start actually **repealing** some of their more ridiculous laws instead of always passing more.

I am certainly not opposed to taxes that will help our education system as we are talking about our nation's future.

However, we need to put this horrendous prison-industrial complex fiasco under control and divert the money towards education, research, and innovation so we can actually compete with India and China.

Continuing to go down this Prison-State road will only leave us at a global disadvantage.

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benz72 | August 21, 2012 at 8:09 a.m. ― 2 years ago

1) High funding does not guarantee quality. The factors that most influence learning are, and have always been, student dedication and availability of information. The medium we are communicating over right now provides access to unprecedented levels of information very cheaply.

2) I agree with PDSD's call for a large reduction in the number of laws being passed as well as a reduction in prison populations (If some level of restitution is required, public service or a fine are more reasonable in many cases)

3) We need to differentiate between education and training as well as make sure that when we either educate or train the curricula support future employment. If someone wants to study art, music, weightlifting or Latin that is great for their personal growth, but I don't think that is the best way to invest money collected by taxes.

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astrofan | August 21, 2012 at 9:16 a.m. ― 2 years ago

CD, please don't confuse IIK with the facts. 80% of education money goes to pay salaries and obscenely bloated pension and benefits. When people think of money for education they think it's for classrooms or expansion of classes, but in reality it will all go to pay off unsustainable teacher benefits.

Remembere when we were threatened with having the parks close if we didn't cough up more money for license fees (where some of the money was to go to the parks)? Now they find a hidden $54 million dollars in the park's funds. How can any of you believe what the Governor and politicians tell you in this state?

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Willard | August 21, 2012 at 10:33 a.m. ― 2 years ago

An October 2011 report by the California Budget Project shows that California is near the bottom in school spending when compared to other states.Lawmakers have repeatedly cut state spending in recent years in response to the dramatic decline in revenues caused by the most severe economic downturn since the 1930s.(The Bush Great Recession) As a result, 2010-11 estimated General Fund spending was lower as a share of the state’s economy than in 35 of the prior 40 years. Recent cuts have reversed longstanding policies and have left public systems and programs ill-equipped to cope with the ongoing impact of the Bush Great Recession and the challenges of a growing population and an ever-more-competitive global economy. federal dollars provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA)Signed by Obama, helped schools fill budget gaps that resulted from state cuts to education spending http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/10/29/california-school-spending-near-bottom-in-country/

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DeLaRick | August 21, 2012 at 11:54 a.m. ― 2 years ago

100% of all the teachers I know don't live extravagant lifestyles. Let's dispel the Fox myth that they're a bunch of Cadillacin' freeloaders. IIK is right about not punishing the students. Why punish the victims?

PDSD is right about prison spending. It, right along with defense spending, has reached absurd levels. The white elephant in the room continues to be the drug war. The cost of maintaining it is a lot higher than the benefit of continuing it. Personally, I do it clean (to quote Ian McCulloch). That doesn't mean I don't think the drug war is stupid.

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benz72 | August 21, 2012 at 1:21 p.m. ― 2 years ago

The school cuts vs. higher taxes issue is a false dilemma. There are numerous other things in the state budget that are less important than education that should be cut first (the previously mentioned imprisonment and social service programs being some of them).

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CaliforniaDefender | August 21, 2012 at 4:25 p.m. ― 2 years ago

Duck,

I agree with you 110%. Prison spending is out of control. That money is more effective when put to educating young first-time offenders and other work-release/rehab programs.

Benz, you are also 110% right. The "crisis" is manufactured by Brown and the Democratic legislature. That's not to say Republicans have the moral high ground here, but the Dems/unions are the root of the problem. We could have the best public school systems and universities in the world once again, the money is there, but the Dems would rather spend it on other things. Their priorities are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

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Willard | August 21, 2012 at 5:43 p.m. ― 2 years ago

One only has to look at wealthy conservative Poway to see how Republicans would handle funding of schools, on the hook for $1 Billion dollars!

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Willard | August 21, 2012 at 5:44 p.m. ― 2 years ago

The California budget deficit is due largely too the Bush Great Recession, the housing slump and Prop 13 http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/mar/29/...

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benz72 | August 22, 2012 at 7:11 a.m. ― 2 years ago

Willard, should we interpret your commentary to mean that you believe we are spending the right amounts on the right things and that we are not wasting the money we already collect?
Certainly recessions hurt, but they are going to be a part of our future despite our attempts to avoid them; no one has an indefinite winning streak. Prudent planning and frugal expenditure allows us to prepare for fluctuations in tax revenue. Spending everything we can beg, borrow or steal leaves us all vulnerable.

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Missionaccomplished | August 24, 2012 at 11:26 a.m. ― 2 years ago

CA Def

Historical amnesia much or simply wrong AGAIN? The on-going budget woes were brought about by Gray Davis. Remember the energy crisis brought about by speculating corporate greedmongers Enron (and others) together with Davis's inaction or slow response? Brown inherited it from Arnie and Arnie in turn from Gray Davis. Arnie, who was going to be our "savior,"did little. And public employees lost their COLA (Cost of Living Allowance) during the EARLY part of Arnie's term because of the budget. So for you to dump it all on Brown, is pure rightwing demagoguery or historical amnesia.

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Missionaccomplished | August 24, 2012 at 11:30 a.m. ― 2 years ago

Asstrofan, where does it say here ANYTHING about "$50 million for illegal college education"??? I don't see that anywhere in the article. So please please do us all a favor and STAY on topic.

I think you meant kfmb 760 not kpbs.

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Missionaccomplished | August 24, 2012 at 11:42 a.m. ― 2 years ago

Excellent post Willard, and the Bush-era "No Child Left Behind" needs to go! Why has Obama been inactive on this?

@Asstrofan, in a perfect world, public schools would be serlf-serving and self-operating like the check outs at Fresh & Easy and the state wouldn't have to take all the tax pennies you are whinning about! But guess what? That's a fantasy because we don't live in a perfect world. We need personnel in the classroom and the offices.

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Missionaccomplished | August 24, 2012 at 11:44 a.m. ― 2 years ago

This is the problem, much to the chagrin of the likes of CA Deff and Asstrofan:

Schools In Rich Neighborhoods Receive More Tax Dollars | KPBS.orgwww.kpbs.org › News › 2011 › May › 19thCached
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
May 19, 2011 – Some public schools in San Diego County receive millions of ... Rancho Santa Fe is also home to two of the highest-ranking public schools in California, which, ... Wealthy neighborhoods could raise more money from property

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CaliforniaDefender | August 26, 2012 at 7:09 p.m. ― 2 years ago

Mission,

I see no difference between Brown and Davis. But to be fair, the Governor has little power. It is the legislature that drives the ship. How long have we had a Democrat controlled legislature?

42 years! FORTY-TWO!

CA Democrats have NOBODY to blame but themselves and perhaps...
greedy Texas energy barons...
sinister New York bankers...
and corrupt DC politicians....
But mostly themselves.

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Missionaccomplished | August 27, 2012 at 1:39 p.m. ― 2 years ago

And what did Arnie do beside get his pix taken? He was EVEN re-elected while the rightwing of the Republican Party called him a 'RINO." did we suddenly forget? Davis was recalled for a reason--it WAS NOT the Democratic majority in the legislature that was voted out back the, was it? Brown will never be recalled. He may not get re-elected, but he will not be recalled. And you too easily sidestep the speculating greedmongering corporations which Davis was to flakey to control or may even have been in cahoots with to a degree.

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astrofan | August 27, 2012 at 1:50 p.m. ― 2 years ago

missionaccomplished, "Asstrofan, where does it say here ANYTHING about "$50 million for illegal college education"??? I don't see that anywhere in the article. So please please do us all a favor and STAY on topic."

So if we discuss and major issue, we can only use thoughts that were presented in the on air discussion? The point I was making, which is a true point, Jerry Brown has decided we have enough money that we can now give our money to fund grant's for illegal aliens. Don't come around asking us for more money when you dole out our tax money to people not here legally.

"Asstrofan"--that's a good one.

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Willard | August 28, 2012 at 9:28 a.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

Apparently conservatives think a good way to set policy, is to just make stuff up!
The California Department of Finance estimates that 2,500 undocumented students will qualify for Cal Grant funding as a result of the Dream Act, allowing $14.5 million for those students. The entire Cal Grant program is funded at $1.4 billion, meaning the total available for immigrant students represents 1% of the purse.
By the 2012-2013 fiscal year $15.4Billion will be spent incarcerating Californians,$15.3 on educating them

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Missionaccomplished | August 28, 2012 at 11:39 a.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

Because it would border (no pun) on being off topic.

Listen, Asstrofan, try and be a little realistic. Robert Reich proposes "legalizing" every undocumented with a job and no criminal record (in the US or in their home crountry), who is under 40. The purpose? To help Social Security and help many of the same baby boomers who currently complain about this issue. Regardless of what you think of Reich having been in the Clinton adminitration, this sounds like a very sober and workable plan if the Obama administration would EVER have the courage to implement it. But you know what, I think it would have to come from a Repub president to get bipartisan support. Kinda like Nixon going to China without being labeled a "commie."

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astrofan | August 30, 2012 at 2:18 p.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

Sorry you're too dense to make the connection between our Governor blowing millions on people who don't belong here while asking us to shell out more tax dollars. Or threatening to close parks if we don't cough up $18 a year in park fees while they're hiding $54 million or spending tens of billions on "high speed" rail with a train to nowhere.

Than you talk about Robert Reich immigration plans, now that's really off topic.

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Willard | August 30, 2012 at 3:37 p.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

Insulting and inflammatory remarks by astrofan

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Irsila | August 31, 2012 at 8:53 a.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

There is a PROTEST rally today @ 10 am

California State Building (WCAB)
7575 Metropolitan Drive
San Diego CA 92108

Gov Brown gathered support for this Tax Increase by agreeing to sign this DISASTER
Remember SB899? This is WORSE

No one is covering this issue. It will destroy jobs in San Diego and across CA
Please spread the word~!

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Willard | August 31, 2012 at 12:05 p.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

Majority of Californians support Prop. 30, poll say

A recent poll conducted by the Policy Analysis for California Education and Rossier School of Education showed that California voters, by a slight majority, would support an increase in sales and income taxes in order to reduce budget cuts to public education.

California Proposition 30, which will be on the ballot in November, would increase the sales tax rate by ¼ cent per dollar for four years and the personal income tax rate for those with incomes of more than $250,000 for seven years.

“If it passes, the state will receive several billion dollars in additional revenue that will help prevent further cuts to education and other areas,” said Dominic Brewer, vice dean of research in partnerships and globalization at Rossier. “The state budget has essentially been built on the assumption that the extra revenue will be there, so there will be a scramble to identify new cuts if Prop. 30 fails.”

If passed, the proposition is projected to raise about $6 billion in additional annual state revenues for the next seven years. If the measure is rejected, the 2012-13 state budget would be reduced by $6 billion.

According to the poll, about 55 percent of Californians support Proposition 30 while 36 percent oppose it.

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Willard | August 31, 2012 at 12:08 p.m. ― 1 year, 12 months ago

A MESSAGE FROM GOVERNOR BROWN
Take a stand for schools and public safety.

After years of cuts, California's public schools, universities, and local public safety services are at the breaking point.

Proposition 30, the Schools & Local Public Safety Protection Act, will:

Prevent deep school cuts.
Guarantee local public safety funding.
Help balance the budget.

Prop. 30 is the only initiative that will protect school and safety funding and help address the state’s chronic budget mess. That’s why Prop. 30 has my vote, as well as the strong endorsement of the League of Women Voters of California and a statewide coalition of education, public safety and business organizations.

Let’s get California back on track. Join me in voting YES on Prop. 30.
http://www.yesonprop30.com/

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CaliforniaDefender | September 1, 2012 at 6:30 p.m. ― 1 year, 11 months ago

"What Gov. Jerry Brown said recently about his proposed tax hike was complete balderdash." - LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-cap-pensions-20120830,0,3376799.column

Prop 30 "exacerbates California's dysfunctional finances." - SF Chronicle

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/saunders/article/Jerry-Brown-s-tax-plan-breaks-faith-with-3413323.php

"Jerry Brown is being untruthful in characterizing his tax plan as an education initiative." -Civil Rights Attorney Molly Munger

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-03/D9TMDM6G3.htm

Legislative Analyst's Office: "Tax revenue less than Jerry Brown projects."
-Sacramento Bee

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/03/california-budget-analyst-lao-says-tax-revenue-less-than-jerry-brown-projects.html

Stop the Tax Hike on ALL Californians:

http://www.stopprop30.com

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