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Filner Vows To Move Forward As Mayor In Recall Response

Mayor Bob Filner's formal response to the effort to recall him reads like a campaign flier, listing accomplishments and failing to mention the sexual harassment claims against him.

Aired 8/13/13 on KPBS News.

Mayor Bob Filner did not mention the sexual harassment allegations against him in his response to the recall effort.

He submitted his response to the effort to recall him late Monday, just shy of the deadline for him to do so.


Filner's Response To Recall

Filner's Response To Recall

Mayor Bob Filner's response to the recall effort.

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All of the accusations, statements and apologies from the key players in the developing story about allegations of sexual harassment in Mayor Bob Filner's office and calls from former mayoral supporters for his resignation.

Filner had until midnight Monday to respond to the notice of intent to recall him, which was published in U-T San Diego by land use consultant Michael Pallamary, homemaker Elisa Brent and LGBT Weekly publisher Stampp Corbin.

The response was sent out by Filner's lawyers, Payne & Fears. It read:

"Now is not the time to go backwards — back to the time when middle-class jobs and neighborhood infrastructure were sacrificed to Downtown special interests. We need to continue to move forward!"

It also listed several initiatives Filner says he has accomplished during his eight months in office, including "a creative vision for our Balboa Park Centennial," recruiting planners to "transform our neighborhoods into livable, walkable and bikeable adventures" and bringing "the City’s arts and culture to new levels."

Filner's response was not received by the official recall campaign and was not signed by Filner — both requirements under recall law — but the recall campaign will still publish it in U-T San Diego, said Rachel Laing, spokeswoman for the recall effort. Publishing an elected official's response to a recall is one of the steps in the recall process.

"Mayor Bob Filner obviously believes his policy initiatives excuse his being a sexual predator," Pallamary said in a statement responding to Filner's letter. "His reply is unacceptable. San Diegans want a mayor that doesn't grope and demean women, who doesn't abuse his office to satisfy a perverted quest for a sense of power, and who has the ability to lead our great city — an ability Filner can never, ever reclaim."

Signature gathering for the recall can begin Aug. 18. Recall organizers have until Sept. 26 to gather 101,597 signatures.

Pallmary said Monday that recall organizers have raised thousands of dollars and have received an "overwhelming" response from people offering to volunteer.

The mayor’s chief of staff Lee Burdick echoed the message of the mayor’s statement when she appeared at a meeting of the Downtown Lion’s Club on Tuesday. The club often has luncheons where local newsmakers speak--in the past couple of months they’ve hosted both Filner and City Council President Todd Gloria.

Burdick called these turbulent times in the city of San Diego, but she kept on message, talking about the mayor’s “vision” for the city and trying to move the focus from scandal to policy. She said the mayor believes in strong neighborhoods, in strong environmental progress and she said he is still trying to get a bi-national San Diego-Tijuana Olympics off the ground.

While Burdick didn’t take questions from the press, she did respond to questions from the audience.

She said she was the one who had the locks changed at the mayor’s office while he is gone. She said she didn’t want to make room for allegations of evidence tampering, so she changed the locks and is keeping the key safe so no one can get in or out.

Burdick also asserted it was her, in conversation with Filner, who established the policy that no women can be alone with him. She said City Attorney Jan Goldsmith was having similar conversations with Walt Ekard, the city’s chief operating officer, about restricting the mayor’s contact with women. She said it was a prudent step given the seriousness of the charges of sexual harassment that had become public.

When asked if the controversy surrounding the mayor amounted to a witch hunt, Burdick said no.

“I could not in good conscience suggest this is a witch hunt driven by political motivations that breach deep down into the roots of a conspiracy theory," she said.

Burdick also told the crowd that the mayor could still continue to implement his vision, but she said he might have to walk a bit more softly. While he is still a strong mayor, she told him that he could no longer strong-arm the City Council. She said she told him, “you’re not going to be able to scream and yell at the council. You’re not going to be able to threaten them with a sustainable veto."

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strata66 | August 13, 2013 at 8 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Atta boy Bob, DON'T GIVE UP! You are MY MAYOR for 3 more years and I like that. The recall will fail and so will Papa Doug and his gangster club of money worshippers. I love your response and I believe in you, just keep the hands in the pockets from now on eh? I forgive you!!!

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dlwintermia | August 13, 2013 at 8:15 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

This is going to be a real fight, but Filner should hang in there. The wording and actions of the recall committee are as unfortunate as Filner's actions in the past. This is plainly a witch-hunt and it is unfortunate that only the city will really suffer from it. Bob has the stamina and determination to stay and his actions will be under diligent scrutiny in the future. We need to move forward, not backwards. Filner has apologized, sought out professional help and now he needs to demonstrate that he has learned something he should have known in his gut, even if he didn't receive the training from the city that is mandatory.

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MarineRoom | August 13, 2013 at 8:29 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

I agree with strata66 and dlwintermia:

Mayor Filner, non illegitimi carborundum!

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dwftommy | August 13, 2013 at 8:43 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

So Filner spends a week (maybe) with a psychiatrist and he's cured? It has already been proven that he is the one who neglected to take his mandated harassment training. Typical, looking for someone else to blame. Would the 3 of you be comfortable with your wives, mothers, daughters or sisters working in the mayors office and subject to his self confessed abuses?

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MamaSchaf | August 13, 2013 at 9:39 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Our city is a national punch line. Our mayor hasn't been seen or heard from since August 26. He's under investigation by the FBI for several felony level offenses. He skipped the National Conference of Mayors to go Paris with his now ex- "First Lady" - by the way, we paid for portions of both trips. He's unavailable until next week, skipping all scheduled appearances and delaying critical city business. Don't know about ya'll but most of us don't get our paid vacation within the first year of a job, let alone three weeks. Filner insolently bagged virtually all his city orientation and training despite repeated requests from city HR, including refusing to complete sexual harassment training - which could have been done in a couple hours online. Even without factoring in his anger management issues, bullying behavior and serial sexual misconduct, plus the intimidation and abuse of women all over our city, including city employees - HOW could anyone fail to see that this man needs to go away?

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 10:07 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

So help me understand the foundation are we basing our views on here regarding excusing Bob Filner's conduct? As Democrats are we now practicing some Neo-Nicomachean Ethic that I am not aware of? Please do send me the book because it belies everything I recall from western traditions class. Is it now permissible to overlook sexual harassment in the workplace as long as we are talking about a Government Employee with this new frame of reference? And is it OK now to, rather than appoint a noble leader who serves by example, to forgive and forget cad behavior from our highest city representative whose conduct is unbecoming to say the least? We selected a flawed prickly man who exhibits a 'do as i say, not as i do OR i will have you undone' attitude with others. Donna Frye and Todd Gloria are noble leaders. Bob Filner is not.

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thompsonrichard | August 13, 2013 at 10:14 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

March on Washington DC, Aug. 28, 1963~ a two decade TIMELINE

May, 1953~ Salk announced polio vaccine.

1954~ Official use of torture by French authorities in Algeria characterized by philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre as "the plague of the 20th Century."

Aug.1954 - Oct. 11, 1955~ U.S. Civil Service fired 2,600 civil servants under the Communist Control Act.

1955~ first wet-suit invented by Ocean Beach (San Diego City) resident Jack O'Neill.

Dec. 1, 1955~ Rosa Parks of Montgomery, Alabama refused to give her bus seat to a white man -- arrested, fined and jailed.

May 16, 1956~ "The Great Pantie Raid" involved thousands of male students surging around UC Berkeley sororities. A fireman was injured; police called out. A judge awards the sororities $4,500 to pay for the lost underwear.

1957~ A man named Geisel who called himself Seuss wrote a very nice book, but what was the use? No publisher would have it, they turned it down flat. Who on earth wanted to read about a stupid cat with a hat?

June 29, 1959~ Japanese -Americans regain citizenship lost during WWII.

Feb. 1, 1960 - Sept. 1961~ Four Negro college students are refused service at a Greensboro North Carolina Woolworth's lunch counter. Seventy thousand sympathizers go on to participate in sit-ins.

May 9, 1960~ FDA approved the pill.

Oct. 8, 1960 Alfred Hitchcock's movie Psycho stimulated sales of transparent shower curtains.

Mar. 1, 1961~ Peace Corps started by JFK.

Sept.10, 1961~ Carlsbad Police (North San Diego County) arrested the first skateboarder [or sidewalk surfer dude].

Dec 22, 1961~ James Davis became the first American soldier to be killed in Vietnam.

Aug. - Nov. 1962~ Cuban Missile Crisis.

1963~ Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique.

1963~ Guggenheim Museum featured Pop Artists Andy Warhol, Robert Rauschenberg, Jasper Johns, and Claus Oldenburg.

Mar. 21, 1963 Alcatraz Prison closed.

June 12, 1963~ After 14,733 Americans were arrested in 186 cities, JFK went on national television: "It is as old as the Scriptures -- and is as clear as the U.S. Constitution -- whether we are going to treat our fellow Americans as we want to be treated." June 12, midnight: Medgar Evers was assassinated in Jackson, Mississippi.

June 19, 1963 Valentina Tereshkova was sent into orbit.

Aug. 28, 1963: Rev. King said he would not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream."

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 13, 2013 at 11:47 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Let me be clear: there is no clear right or wrong here.

Filner has rendered himself unable to attain the agenda for which we voted him into office, and he is being a stubborn mule by refusing to have some humility, humanity and to step down.

But, those orchestrating this recall are no better.

Pallamary and te rest don't care about our city or about women victimized by Filner. What they care about is this power grab to return San Diego to the hands of the Rebulblican Bosses and their benefactor, Mr. Manchester.

Pallamary is every bit as filthy as Mr. Filner, using this scandal to his own political advantage.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 13, 2013 at 11:51 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

As dismayed as I am over having a lame duck horny old letch fouling up city hall for the next 3 years, I would rather have that then handing our city back over to the good 'ol boys who kiss Mancester's ring.

I will not sign this petition.

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Missionaccomplished | August 13, 2013 at 11:53 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Makes sense. A developer derrier-ksser, a right winger and a CDM or Gloria supporter. Makes perfect sense.

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TheDiegan | August 13, 2013 at 11:58 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Please, people—there is *no way* that Bob's fellow Democrats in Congress—had they known—would have remained silent about the man's naughty horseplay while he was in Washington. After all, both media and Congressional Dems were impressively vociferous in decrying Sen. Ted Kennedy's and Sen. Chris Dodd's hijinks when they were doing things like drunkenly grinding out that "waitress sandwich," now weren't they? Why, Kennedy was mocked appropriately and relentlessly afterward by media as "The Lion of the Senate," or "The Conscience of the Senate." Those teasing nicknames surely taught him a thing or two.

So any media investigation of complicity aimed at shielding Filner's reputation would be silly. No congressional aides are worth talking to, and no DNC folks neither, nope. All of that tiring "who knew what and when did they know it" stuff—sheesh!

It was a refreshing, united media/Democratic silence about Bob's Congressional-years hijinks that helped bring our city Our Mayor, the Honorable Bob Filner, the neediest man in town, and a man who really, *really* needs us to stand beside him now.

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MamaSchaf | August 13, 2013 at 12:11 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

So Filner should be allowed to continue to abuse, intimidate and disenfranchise women for another three years? What if he had picked a different group of people as targets for abuse, intimidate and disenfranchise? This man is abusive. We can't just chuckle and call him a "stubborn mule" and excuse his behavior.

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strata66 | August 13, 2013 at 12:40 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Well then, all you "recallers" $hould pony up to the effort. Papa Doug would $ure appreciate a donation to the cause. How about $1000.00 each, that could get the "kitty" up to $20,000. Put in some effort instead of stealth anonymous comments that make you "feel" involved. Put up the cash or shut up. Post your contribution amount here.

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Beachboy | August 13, 2013 at 12:46 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Dude! Hat's off to the Filner apologists cleverly changing the subject. Sure, he's evil, but we are sticking with evil as opposed to a new election because we might get someone in office who evil people might support. Cute. So you accuse Doug Manchester of being the puppet master of three prominent Democrats plus Lorena Gonzalez? Only paid pr hacks do that with a straight face.

The fact is we have a guy who took influence peddling to a new level. Money for his pet projects and trade access for sexual favors. What mayoral actions could cross a line you hacks would draw?

And when spouting generic talking points like "This is clearly a witch hunt" you should attempt to be accurate. Which hunt refers to a random search for anyone who has an unprovable sin. Filner is accused by a long list of his former closest allies. That is an intern level mistake.

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twells | August 13, 2013 at 12:48 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Only a true zealot would be supporting Bob at this point in time. He betrays so much of what Democrats purport to support. A recall would not be necessary if Filner would do the honorable thing, but he won't. As such, the recall is the only way to go. It doesn't matter in Karl Rove sponsored the recall effort ... it is what must be done, because the Finer wont leave any other way. Denying that fact only paints you into a corner of hypocrisy.

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 12:49 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Peking Duck - Let me be clear back at you. Your argument is, although the man we have elected to represent the Democratic platform may continue to foul up San Diego for the duration of his term, he represents the lesser of two evils. That's fuzzy logic and cum hoc fallacy at best. Number one, your conclusion is based on the assumption that a Democrat will not win in a recall. If factions of the Democrats continue to compromise their integrity by settling on a boorish cad, your fear may be well-founded. I respect politicians who operate out of a place of courage and integrity. Donna Frye and Todd Gloria exhibit a and b. Time we stand rather than settle.

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MamaSchaf | August 13, 2013 at 12:57 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Strata: My guess is that when you posed for your photo with Mr. Filner he declined to grab your butt or cop a boob feel as he has done with several women I have met.

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 1:50 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

MamaSchaf, or perhaps he did indeed cop a feel hence the irascible zeal. Ahh, but more probable, perhaps Strata is the one on the left!

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 13, 2013 at 3:42 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

MamaSchaft, Filner is surrounded by hoarded of attorneys waiting like hungry buzzards to sue the pants off him (pun intended). He is also not meeting with any women privately. I don't think the concern now is that he will be sexually harassing anyone, it's that the city's government is basically dysfunctional right now with this fiasco going on.

CarlosDangling, your post implies the calling on Filner to step down and joining the recall effort are one and the same.

They aren't.

Frye and Gloria have Valle for him to step down, have they announced support for the recall?

I haven't heard them do so.

The recall has been hijacked by political operatives, it's going to cost a lot and there is no guarantee it will even be successful.

I am of the opinion we should try harder to get him to step down, that would be better for the city.

Filner, like everyone, has their bottom line and their breaking point.

A recall orchestrated by partisan hacks lacks legitimacy and is bound to fail and it's certainly not the only way to flush Filner out of city hall like said hacks are implying.

And, if Filner survives the recall as I believe he will because it's being orchestrated by divisive parasites like Pallamary, then it will be MUCH harder to get rid of him.

I guess most are too dumb to see this recall is basically a gift to the Filner camp.

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MamaSchaf | August 13, 2013 at 4:05 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

I'm not thrilled with the absolute waste of money to be spent on a recall, some 3 million dollars has been projected. But Filner must go and he's said repeatedly, even today, that he is not going on his own. He could save the people of this city lots of money, angst and embarrassment by leaving. But he wants to continue this dance of manipulation and deceit. If this city office was a private company, the due process question would never come up, and he'd have been escorted out of his office by security weeks ago. He's leaving us no option but to begin the recall process. If he truly loved this community, he would man up and get out. His reign of terror is over, he just doesn't seem to get it yet.

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CaliforniaDefender | August 13, 2013 at 4:14 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago


I'm unclear as to why you would not sign the recall petition. You say Filner is "a lame duck horny old letch fouling up city hall." You can choose ANYONE in the next election brought on by the recall. Even someone who is not of the "good 'ol boys who kiss Mancester's ring."

Filner is terrible for San Diego as are developers. We need someone new. I intend to vote for the person who is least beholden to special interests and I hope you do too. But we need the chance to do it!

Please, sign the petition and at least give us the chance!

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 4:16 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

We are in violent agreement that having him step down, Plan A, is the preferred and most cost-effective option.

I see the recall effort as a Plan B, the secondary option, and if pundits are correct in their prediction that "It is not in Filner's DNA' to step down", then it appears Plan B will be the only option we are left with due to predictable Filner personality traits of arrogance and mulishness.

I think it is unjustified to damn the entire recall effort. The end game in a recall effort is unseating Filner and does not mean the man who files the recall papers (albeit you don't like him) has carte blanche in selecting the Mayor's replacement. Democratic process will figure that out. Recall effort Plan B is merely a process that's followed with a known result. A means to achieve the same end as Plan A is intended to achieve.

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CaliforniaDefender | August 13, 2013 at 4:23 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Also, does anyone else find the name of Filner's Los Angeles-based PR team to be hilariously fitting of his style?

Payne & Fears?

Come on, SERIOUSLY?!? That has to be a sad joke.

Also, why didn't Filner select a San Diego PR team? He has to run to LA to find one...or did he just see their billboard when he was in Beverly Hills during his "treatment" vacation and he loved the name?

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 4:26 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Peking-Duck, one more thing, I think you may be able to infer from my last post implied but I will restate my position, and I beg others to join in, I with 100% certainty, will sign on the dotted line to recall Bob Filner if that is the only mechanism available to do so. To have this lame duck in office for three more years makes zero logical sense to me.

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MarineRoom | August 13, 2013 at 4:44 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Peking, I too feel impelled to share with you what I will do if a recall ballot is presented to me: I will sign on the dotted line, if that is an option, not to recall Bob Filner. To make myself quite clear, I with 100% certainty want to have Mayor Filner continue in office as mayor for the next three years.

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laplayaheritage | August 13, 2013 at 4:53 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

A special Recall election will cost taxpayer $6 Million.

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DonWood | August 13, 2013 at 4:58 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Some of the rabidly anti-Filner local reporters (including several KPBS reporters) remind me of the picadors who shove barbs into the bull at bullfights. Up on padded horses out of danger,except for the few occasions when the bull knocks their horses down. Then they run away as fast as they can.

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strata66 | August 13, 2013 at 5:02 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

I love that pic with Bob; what you do not see in him I do. What I am doing is standing next to a modern day political "Picasso" of a man. Like a great and noble artist, I see him spreading love and color and sunshine all through San Diego like I have never seen before. Just look what he has done so far for our beautiful city as his response says, I am so thankful. His sensitivity and thoughtfulness and sincerity are genuine and un-selfish. Maybe he is a megalomaniac but it is not in an evil way. His love cup runneth over, like the droplets of paint from the brush of a master. He really is the evolution, but now he is wounded. I am not going to throw Bob in the trash like most of you are, I'm going to stick by him because he is of the heart, not of the dollar. That IS the evolution, get it? I am sure he gets the message by now, no fuki-fuki Bob, so let him heal and start with a clean fresh slate. And then we can stop all this stupid bickering and get back to work.

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MamaSchaf | August 13, 2013 at 5:02 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Well ok, let's look deep into our crystal ball, say one year hence with Mr. Filner still in office:

Women are not allowed to meet with him privately, and fear and distrust him; disenfranchising 50% of his constituency. The FBI investigation continues or ends in charges, and trial. The harrassment suit continues. Mr. Filner continues to bully and intimidate people in his office and members of the community. The atmosphere of fear and intimidation on the part of anyone who needs to do business with the city also continues. Quid Pro Quo continues, albeit subtly.

OR, Mr. Filner's week of "intensive therapy" is completely successful and he is also visited by the ghosts of winter holidays past, present and future and is transformed from mysoginistic, deceitful, manipulative, angry Scrooge to benevolent, generous, consensus seeking, rational Scrooge.

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 5:29 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Ahh Strata66 where can i find a pair of those rose colored glasses. Is Bob there over your shoulder forcing you to type?

Well I must say, we do differ in how we view our current Mayor. You see Picasso but I see Jethro Tull. Best illustrated here:

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CaliforniaDefender | August 13, 2013 at 5:31 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

DonWood equates those engaging in the recall process and KPBS with those who TORTURE ANIMALS.

To say that is not just distasteful but offensive.

I'm just appalled by what the few remaining Filner supporters are saying. Like strata66 making fun of all this with "no fuki-fuki Bob" and his "love cup runneth over". Sickening!

They have no shame and no sense of the terrible things Bob Filner has done to women. They confirm to me that recalling Filner is absolutely the right thing to do.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 13, 2013 at 5:40 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

I guess the disconnect I have with those defending the recall is that I see it as a risk.

A huge risk.

People are talking as if it's a given, but do the math - that's a LOT of people to sign in a short amount of time.

I give it a 50/50 chance at success.

And realize, if Filner survives a recall, that gives him the upper hand.

If no recall takes place and Filner is still being a stubborn mule, then he looks like a jerk.

If he fights a recall, however, he looks like a hero to those in his base of support who se to not care he's a pervert.

I don't trust the people behind the recall, and I'm not convinced it even has an above average chance of beig a success.

I'm not convinced the city council has done everything they can do to get him out, either.

And what about the state government?

If we have a mayor who has become so dysfunctional that its causing harm to the economy and welfare of the 2nd largest city, can the governor or attorney general step-in and do something to remove him?

I just think we should look at different options before proceeding with this recall.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 13, 2013 at 5:48 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Do we have any constitutional experts or lawyers here who can shed light on the balance of power, i.e. state versus local politics.

My civics might be rusty, but I thougt state government trumps local.

It's not uncommon in times of emergency for the state to dictate what local governments must do.

We see it in times of natural disaster, public health crisis - we even saw it with prison realignment - the state can decide they are sending state prisoners to the county even though written laws specify these people be housed in saye prison as just recently happened.

Jerry Brown needs to step up - the second largest city in his state is in political crisis and about to go through a painful, risky, expensive recall.

Me. Brown needs to draft an executive order removing Mr. Filner from power.

I quite certain an executive order from the governed trumps San Diego's pathetically written "charter".

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 13, 2013 at 5:51 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Apologies for typos, damn iPhone :(

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 5:52 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

I'm open to other options. I'm open to all options to complete the ouster.

Would also like them to do a thorough post-mortem and root cause analysis coming up with remediation or change statutes/legislation or whatever is necessary so this never happens again.

Voters should think more deeply about 'whole' character of the man they are electing into office before the check the box not just on party line/affiliation. Character does matter.

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twells | August 13, 2013 at 5:59 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

The governor cannot remove the mayor just as the President cannot remove the governor. There are procedures for taking care of this .. it is the recall.

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twells | August 13, 2013 at 5:59 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Or impeachment if he actually commits a crime.

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MamaSchaf | August 13, 2013 at 6:06 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

I agree 100% that recall is a risk and a waste of hard earned taxpayer money. But something must be done to remove Filner from office if he refuses to resign. I have not heard or read of a state level intervention. Interesting idea. It's very hard to see the city suffering so and feel void of options for solution. Ridiculous that one man is entitled by city charter to cause so much harm.

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twells | August 13, 2013 at 6:12 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Keep in mind ... WE (the voters) are responsible for keeping Filner in office. WE (the voters) can remove him. WE (the voters) put him in office despite the rumors he had issues. The State has no business getting involved. If WE want him out, WE need to put him out.

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CarlosDangler | August 13, 2013 at 6:38 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

If San Diego's own Dr. Suess were alive, what would he say?

Based on Dr. Seuss book titled "Marvin K. Mooney Will You Please Go Now!"

"Bob Filner will you please go now!
The time has come.
The time has come.
The time is now.
Just go.
I don't care how.
You can go by foot.
You can go by cow.
Bob Filner will you please go now!
You can go on skates.
You can go on skis.
You can go in a hat.
Please go.
I don't care.
You can go
By bike.
You can go
On a Zike-Bike
If you like.
If you like
You can go
In an old blue shoe.
Just go, go, GO!
Please do, do, do, DO!
Bob Filner
I don't care how.
Bob Filner
Will you please
You can go on stilts.
You can go by fish.
You can go in a Crunk-Car
If you wish.
If you wish
You may go
By lion's tale.
Or stamp yourself
And go by mail.
Bob Filner
Don't you know
The time has come
To go, go, GO!
Get on your way!

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MarineRoom | August 14, 2013 at 1:52 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Strata66, stick to your guns! I enjoy your positive outlook. Always a pleasure.

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philosopher3000 | August 14, 2013 at 7:32 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

With no evidence KPBS continues to characterize the Mayor as:
"sexual predator"
committing "sexual assault"
"sex addict"
committing "sexual harassment"

Yet, none of his alleged actions amount to more than flirtations.
None of his admitted actions amount to more than misunderstandings.
Only one of the accusers wants to file suit.

Speculation is not journalism.
Repeating gossip is not journalism.
There is nothing but hearsay against the Mayor.
This is a witch hunt.

When you can't beat them, impeach them. If you have no evidence, use the press.

Wake up.

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 8:17 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Philosopher3000... You are a Philosopher? Based on your post above, you must not be into the Virtue or Nicomachean Ethics Philosophers like Aristotle, and his proteges. My guess is Nietzsche.

Are you typing with straight face?

Do you feel that all 14 of women that have come forward are liars /crackpots/members of some sort of conspiracy?

All 14 women are credible professionals. The evidence is overwhelming. Any member working in the public sector would be ousted in a heartbeat by their HR department and escorted out of the building to avoid liability if they did 1/14th of what Filner is accused of doing. Among other things, Filner is liability, a lame duck and he needs to go. Stop defending a cad who has no standing in the eyes of the overwhelming majority of the community.

Regarding Philosophy, I fall in line more with Aristotle. I'll take the pursuit of happiness over cynicism and mental anguish any day. Not into Friedrich Nietzsche. If he was alive today he would be on Lithium and Prozac.

"The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything."
"God is Dead"
"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

Friedrich Nietzsche

Not at all into Nietzche. Wake up from your slumber.

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 8:24 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

If by 'witch' you mean sexual predator, i agree with you. It is a witch hunt. Let us
1) oust the witch and
2) let the witch pursue his due process in his own time while the city appoints itself a competent replacement

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MarineRoom | August 14, 2013 at 8:39 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Until I see both sides presented in court, I do not consider unsubstantiated charges to be overwhelming evidence. Quite the opposite.

Attacking those who do not believe in trial by press will not circumvent the Constitution, nor will it make them join the stampede.

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MamaSchaf | August 14, 2013 at 8:52 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Philosopher, let me tell you what I told my children when they were very small. If someone puts their hands on your bathing suit parts, you must tell them NO and then tell another grown-up. Hands on bathing suit parts go beyond flirtation. When someone puts hands on your bathing suit parts and implies you can only keep your job or forward your agenda if they can continue to touch you, that's called intimidation and harrassment. Plus it's just icky.

Now if we're going to have Nietzsche throw down, I want to play!
"The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die. As well as minds which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be mind."
"Battle not with monsters lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 8:53 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

If it looks like duck, quacks like a duck and 14 people tell you its a duck....and it limps, its a lame duck.

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MamaSchaf | August 14, 2013 at 8:56 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

PS: Nietzsche also said, "My genius is in my nostrils" so.....

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 10:10 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

MarineRoom, I agree with you here. 'Attacking those who do not believe in trial by press will not circumvent the Constitution, nor will it make them join the stampede.'.

I, as does everyone that i have talked to on this topic, believe he deserves due process.

I think the phrase 'due process' has been used as a smokescreen by his unions and some but not all of his backers..

Where we may differ, I believe is the sequential series of steps that need to happen prior to due process kickoff.

Prior to due process, he deserves the same treatment as would anyone in the public sector employee if they found themselves in the same precarious position he is currently in. He needs to have his badge taken away, his desk and office cleared out, computer confiscated and then he needs to be escorted by security out of the building at which time someone can change the locks (someone other than Lee Burdick). I'm trying to be vindictive here, this is what happen to anyone accused of doing what he is accused of doing. We have to look at the spirit of the law in addition to the letter of the law. Ignoring the spirit of the law diminishes the 14 accusers. What if they are all telling the truth and that manifests in court?

The treatment he is getting by the press is today's version of tarring and feathering. Sort of a Karmic retribution. He's a thick skinned politician and he made his bed. He should be thankful he's not living in a different era.

I feel sorry for Bob, he is a tragic figure, but I would never go so far as to say he is a 'victim' in all of this. I wouldn't imagine he's too happy with himself. Aristotle might say, he is not i a 'happy' place because he needs to work on the virtue thing, avoid the vice, make a U-turn and pursue the virtuous path. Pursuit of 'true' happiness can only be achieved by seeking that that perfect balance among self, others with the body politic following your virtue compass. That's politics 101. If he ain't happy. and he ain't making citizens happy, and he ain't making city council members and Democratic Nation leaders in his party happy, he ain't virtuous. Somethin's out of whack/ off kilter.

God love him and hope that two weeks served as a wake up call and knocked some sense into him. Common sense says needs he more time to heal. Perhaps years worth. Old dog new tricks thing.

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 11:05 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself.

Benjamin Franklin

Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let every new year find you a better man.

Benjamin Franklin

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strata66 | August 14, 2013 at 11:41 a.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Gosh thanks Marine Room :) I am glad you are not militarized and willing to forgive and forget so we can move on. Some of the other people here have swallowed this farce hook, line sinker, fishing pole, tackle box, the fishing boat and anything else that is being fed to them by the media and these grown mature women. He's a flirt, not a rapist. Why in the hell does Mama talk about sticking hands down the pants? Nobody did that, you're mixed up. He just wants a wife, he's looking for her and that is his crime. He is lonely, and these brutal money worshipers are using that "weakness" to steal the Mayors seat. They could care less about what he did, they could care less about these women. They are just collateral damage for their true intentions. Bob is an absolute jewel of a man, we will never find another like him. What I love about Bob is he kisses no man's ass, and that is kryptonite to the money worshipers in La Jolla. He tells them to go stick it as he can't be purchased. He is exactly what we need in a mayor, I see that and I will fight for him until it's conclusion.

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MamaSchaf | August 14, 2013 at 12:31 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Strata you need to re-read the statements of women who are speaking out. He's a serial groper, putting his hands on women whenever he finds a vulnerable opportunity. To be as clear as possible, that includes boobs and butts. Through clothes or under clothes, ain't no nevermind - although allegedly, both have happened. And whether it happens when you're in a headlock or when you're in a room alone with him or when you're posing for a picture with him, it's sexual harrassment and could in some cases be sexual assault. It's not a weakness it's an abuse of power. Anywhere in the real world the man would be summarily fired. Frankly it makes me very sad that there are still people in our community who think he's cute and curmudgeonly. Looking for a wife... Seriously?

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 1:13 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Looking for a wife? Strata you have to admit that is pretty funny.

He had a wife in the bag. Apparently he wanted more. Much more. A commune or a harem where free indiscriminate love is permitted, a cads nirvana perhaps, where old guys rule and where where skulking around with your neighbors wife is not frowned upon, rather encouraged.

The problem with his idea of the road to happiness is that it is in opposition to what others want and it violates others ability to pursue their own happiness ( ie: the women beholden to him who he thrusts himself upon wantonly against their will).

He's highhandedly redefined the word cad for the year 2013 and beyond.

Your argument about money worshipers is vague. Bob apparently has an affinity for money too. He asked us all to pay for his legal defenses. Does that mean he 'worships' money? Money is a means to an end. Any who understands our free market system gets that. Your argument about money worshipers warrants further explanation otherwise it verges on insanity.

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MarineRoom | August 14, 2013 at 2:15 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago


A little birdie just delivered this in my mailbox:

Oh Jan the attorney
If attorney you are
Please leave San Diego
By plane or by car
On foot or on wing
To a far distant shore
I don't care where it is
Don't be here anymore.
I hear there's a city
On the shores of the Styx
With some bankers and builders
And elections to fix.
I'm sure you'd be happy
I'm sure we'd be too,
If Jan Goldsmith you left
If Jan Goldsmith you flew
With your comrades-in-arms
And you started anew.
Take a taxi or train
Ride a skateboard or bus
Just go far far away
Far away
Far from us.

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CarlosDangler | August 14, 2013 at 3:09 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Touché and LOL.

I'll bet 20 bucks that little birdie was Bob Filner's homing pigeon.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 14, 2013 at 11:01 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

CaliforniaDefender | yesterday at 4:23 p.m. ― 1 day, 6 hours ago
Also, does anyone else find the name of Filner's Los Angeles-based PR team to be hilariously fitting of his style?

Payne & Fears?


It's almost as bad as the judicial race not too long ago:

Peed v Kreep.

The namesake appropriate Kreep being the victor, of course.

What's up with Mr. Kreep these days anyway?

He's been awfully silent lately.

Has he given his 'highly-sought after' 'expert' opinion on Filner yet?

Maybe Filner was really born in Guatemala and Kreep can forge a birth certificate at his Birther sweat-shop?

The out we need for Filner ??

Ok, maybe not.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 14, 2013 at 11:25 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Ode to Jan:

Is it a mound of moldy hay?
Or could it be two rats at play?

A pile of auburn straw?
Perhaps some big, hairy animal's paw?
Trying to figure it out really sticks in my craw,
It's so disturbing Jan, dear, it should be against the law!

It's there staring at me when your on the news,
It shows up in nightmares I have when I take a snooze.

I've traveled the world, far and near,
But never have I seen anything quite so queer.

Is it alive, Jan and, can it walk!?
Perhaps it's something that can even talk?

If so maybe it has seen,
Mayor Filner being mean?

Perhaps it crawled away leaving your head nude,
And witnessed Bob being lewd??

Call the lawyers, call the court!
Don't let it escape, alert the port!

We're talking about the strangest star witness on earth,
Do you even wear that ridiculous thing whilst you surf!?!?

Jan, whatever that thing is atop your head,
Don't let it out of your sight, even when you go to bed,
It could be the key to this entire fiasco, quick call Ms. Allred!!!!!!!!!!!!


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MarineRoom | August 15, 2013 at 1:05 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Uh oh, Carlos has opened Pandora's box: once you start with the poetry, it's no holds barred...

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 15, 2013 at 1:51 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Tongue twisters are fun too!

Filner fondled five fabulous females while finally fulfilling twenty-fifteen's future fiesta formalities by fending-off fender-benders from the front facade of the fine-arts facility in balboa park.

Repeat quickly 5 times, please.

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CarlosDangler | August 16, 2013 at 8:52 p.m. ― 3 years, 6 months ago

Strata, that old 2012 mediamatter's link you sent is the most slanted website i have ever seen; as slanted as Rush Limbaugh's website. I don't like Rush Limbaugh's ideas and style, nor do i like mediamatter's blog. It's that type of super-partisan misinformation that duped enough S.D. voters to perhaps 'unwittingly' put Bob Filner in the Mayor's office. I just don't buy that nonsense and i hope after this Filner scandal boils over, San Diegan's vote for character and not based on this partisan nonsense. Thanks for sharing so we know what to avoid next time around.

A few links on that may help to avoid this crap in the future:

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