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Four More Women Accuse Filner

KPBS news partner inewsource collaborated on this report.

Evening Edition

Above: Four more prominent San Diego women came forth today accusing Mayor Bob Filner of unwanted sexual advances.

Aired 7/26/13 on KPBS News.

Four prominent San Diego women came forth today accusing Mayor Bob Filner of unwanted sexual advances.

Four prominent San Diego women came forth today accusing Mayor Bob Filner of unwanted sexual advances. They related specific incidents in an exclusive interview with KPBS News.

The latest accusers —a retired Navy rear-admiral, a dean at San Diego State University, the head of the Port Tenants Association and a businesswoman — all said they were on the receiving end of unwanted advances, inappropriate touching and comments by Filner.

And all four said they believe he is unfit for office and should resign immediately.

Special Feature Read the Backstory

All of the accusations, statements and apologies from the key players in the developing story about allegations of sexual harassment in Mayor Bob Filner's office and calls from former mayoral supporters for his resignation.

The mayor’s office this afternoon did not respond to a request for comment on these latest allegations.

The new accusations fit a familiar pattern.

Sharon Bernie–Cloward, president of the San Diego Port Tenants Association, said then-Congressman Filner approached her at a National City event in 2010, told her she was beautiful and that he “wanted to date me” after his re-election.

She also told of an event at the Town & Country Convention Center in 2012, when Filner was running for mayor of San Diego.

“He came up to me after the event was over. I was talking with friends and he gave me a hug. And then he touched me, actually groped me on my backside inappropriately,” Bernie-Cloward said. “I was left there startled and fearful. In fact, I actually had someone walk me to my car that night.”

Patti Roscoe, a prominent businesswoman in San Diego’s tourism and hospitality industry, said she’s known Filner since his days on the City Council decades ago.

“And on numerous occasions, he put in me what I guess now is the famous headlock; and I felt fearful, even as well as I knew him, because it was an invasion into my space,” Roscoe said. “And he would come in and try to kiss me on the lips and I’d have to squirm to get away. And just as recently as a few months ago this happened. I turned and he just slobbered down my chin.

"And I was so violated and so offended. It’s just such a terrible invasion.”

Another woman in today’s interview with KPBS was Veronica “Ronne” Froman, who held the unofficial title of “Navy Mayor of San Diego” before retiring as a rear admiral in 2001.

Froman, who was chief operating officer of the city of San Diego during Mayor Jerry Sanders’ administration, said that at a meeting “a couple years ago (at) Filner’s congressional office,” he blocked the doorway after everyone had left.

“He stopped me and he got very close to me. And he ran his finger up my cheek like this and he whispered to me, ‘Do you have a man in your life?’” Froman said. “I jumped back. I was very, very startled. And I said, ‘Yes, I have a man in my life.’

"And he said, 'who?' And I said, ‘Linden Blue.’ He says, ‘Oh, of the Blues Brothers?’ And he says, ‘Maybe we can get together some time and have lunch and he can support me for mayor.’

“I was really rattled, I got in the car with the two guys I was working with and I told them never to leave me alone in a room with Bob Filner again.”

Joyce Gattas is dean of the College of Professional Studies and Fine Arts at SDSU.

She described to KPBS a series of “interactions with Bob where he’s held me too tight, a kiss on the cheek which is inappropriate, hands on the knee that last too long.”

Gattas, who helped craft the university’s sexual-harassment policy, said she has often seen Filner make “sexual comments to others. And I’ve seen the interactions with others when they cringe. I’ve experienced his sexual innuendos with me at various events that again, have left me in that strange feeling of: This is inappropriate, this is unwanted and this shouldn’t be happening.”

The four women coming forth today follow three others who went public earlier this week.

On Monday, Filner’s former communications chief, Irene McCormack Jackson, announced she had filed a sexual harassment lawsuit.

With notable women's rights attorney Gloria Allred by her side, McCormack Jackson accused Filner of groping and kissing her in her office at City Hall, and suggesting she come to work without her underwear on.

Laura Fink on Tuesday told KPBS that Filner “grabbed my posterior” in front of surprised diners at a fundraising event in 2005 when Fink was a worker on Filner’s congressional campaign staff.

On Wednesday, school psychologist Morgan Rose told KPBS she met with Filner in 2009 at a restaurant across from his congressional office to discuss her initiative regarding the well-being of America's children.

Rose said he told her "your eyes have bewitched me,'' squeezed next to her in a booth and tried to kiss her four times.

Rose said she has called a hotline set up by the Sheriff's Department to take complaints against the mayor. The department has been designated as the lead law enforcement agency for investigating the claims.

Filner, who has scarcely been seen in public since the scandal broke nearly three weeks ago, made an unscheduled appearance at a meeting this morning, according to U-T San Diego.

The newspaper reports the mayor spoke briefly with a reporter about the scandal, saying:

“I’d like the city to take a deep breath. There are allegations and allegations of allegations. Let us get this into a process where everybody, including myself, has a way to make a fair statement, to talk about their view of things and there’s an impartial investigation and discovery.”

He also told the U-T, "let the legal process work itself out. We’ll all do that in a fair-minded way, that everybody has their day in court."

Later this morning, Filner appeared briefly at an event celebrating an upgrade of the San Diego Trolley Blue Line. Reporters from local and national news stations swarmed him, shouting "are the sexual harassment allegations true?" and "will you resign?"

"There's a legal process by which all of this will be decided," Filner responded after being chased for several minutes. "There will be no other statements regarding … except for the legal process."

He started his remarks at the ceremony with a joke.

"I see you've found a wonderful way to attract media attention for our efforts on the trolley," he said.

Meanwhile, the San Diego County Democratic Party plans a public meeting at 6:30 tonight at party headquarters, 8340 Clairemont Mesa Blvd.

The party will consider its stance on Filner for a second time. The group debated for more than three hours last Thursday over whether to call on the mayor to resign, but ended up with a split vote, 24-24.

After that meeting, committee chair Francine Busby told reporters "if the mayor has done this and it is proven to be true, we will ask for his immediate resignation.”

Claire Trageser contributed to this report.

Comments

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kiwistar | July 25, 2013 at 6:03 p.m. ― 1 year ago

You can be more proactive, if your Councilman/Councilwoman has not asked Filner to resign, the link is here:
http://www.sandiego.gov/citycouncil/

I sent the following letter:
Dear Honorable XXX:

As a resident at XXX, I enjoy receiving monthly newsletter from you about the progress of our community. However, I am highly disappointed that you have not joined other San Diego community leaders to ask Mayor Bob Filner to resign. I work for XXX at XXX; there is zero tolerance policy in our place for sexual harassment. I am very concerned that you still remain silent as XXX after the charges again Mayor Filner came out two weeks ago and followed with additional details.
I hope to hear from you about this matter, until then I will withdraw any future support.

A concerned San Diego resident, XXX.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 25, 2013 at 7:12 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Wow, KPBS is rockin this scandal.

Notice how all these women are choosing to come to a place with reputable journalists a opposed to untrustworthy partisan media sources like the shameful UT and the sophomoric local network "news" stations.

This should be a clear message to Manchester an the local network bosses who have run SD's pathetic media for way too long - your not trusted, your not taken seriously, your pathetic.

The UT should fold now, they contribute nothing to this city except the views of one journalistically inept old man they call "papa".

Kudos KPBS, it's great to have at least one reputable new station leading our city during this dark hour of sexual scandal.

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meancat | July 25, 2013 at 7:15 p.m. ― 1 year ago

This makes 7 women Mayor Bob Filner has sexually harassed. This man is not fit to hold a public office. This behavior is not appropriate in any office! He needs to step down and allow San Diego to elect a new mayor.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 25, 2013 at 7:20 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Are the UT "journalists" simply logging on to KPBS to get updates on the Filner scandal?

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RLA | July 25, 2013 at 7:22 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Any one think he will still be mayor in2015? Will he be able to hold on? He says - she says, years in the courts. He is not only sick, he is crazy. Do you notice that maniacal smile is ever present at his few public showings?

Don't bother to criticize the press, the Democratic Party knew his record and still went ahead at any cost to gain the mayoral seat and power. "At any cost" will cost the liberals at the next election due to their hypocrisy.

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MrsSmith | July 25, 2013 at 7:29 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Kudos to all the women who are commenting publicly about Filner's crass inappropriate behavior. If this was known about Filner even in whispers, why did the local Democratic Party support him to be mayor? Doesn't vetting matter at the local level? I thought the delay approving tourism marketing funds was bad enough. Then I thought the Sunroad $100,000 was, and why in the world would a mayor need to support Iran resistance or whatever in Paris?! This scandal just tops off a terrible mayor who is a terrible distraction to managing the great City of San Diego.

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strata66 | July 25, 2013 at 8:04 p.m. ― 1 year ago

He just wants a wife, he's a lonely man. But now he's in the middle of the Coliseum getting torn apart by tigers to the delight of the cheering public. This is so upsetting to me. Can't we just put him on Match.com, find him a companion and get back to business? He's a sincere man with a lot of heart and experience plus he's 70. Give him a break eh?

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roz | July 25, 2013 at 8:44 p.m. ― 1 year ago

So four prominent women come forward, after the fact, where were they when the public was deciding who to vote for Mayor, apparently all these women knew about his acts, were on the receiving end of his "harassment", but didn't think the voters of San Diego should know about it before casting their vote? Politically ok now to discuss it, or to come forward, a little late maybe? As to the UT coverage, how could anyone fault them, Bob Filner has been front page news, on every page when possible, including today's Business Section. San Diego Politics at work, didn't like that the voters chose Bob Filner, so let's find a way to get rid of him. Really, if all the insiders knew this this was the way he acted around Women, where were they during the campaign. Have the courage to come forward when the act occurs or keep quiet later, just because now it is safe to discuss.

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HCH | July 25, 2013 at 8:44 p.m. ― 1 year ago

I have several reactions from all this. At one level I wish some of these women would have resisted him at the time in a non gracious way. I think women should be trained and prepared to physically resist attackers. And that is what he is. If Bob Filner had gotten a broken nose out of one of these assaults he might have backed off. The women were way too compliant with him. Next many of these stories seem to me to be actual cases of battery or some other legal, criminal charge. I wish they had been charged and prosecuted at the time. I guess men in power get away with stuff. Finally, I think that Filner suffers from a true emotional disturbance. He needs psychiatric help but not while mayor of SD.

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HCH | July 25, 2013 at 8:50 p.m. ― 1 year ago

No, I don't think so. I think that McCormack-Jackson was the courageous leader. She was the one who wouldn't take it anymore and broke the silence. But she had employment protection as a long time tenured city employee. Plus even through Frye she tried to warn off Filner to just resign and not take on a whirlwind. Just think of all the stories from his congressman days.

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mechengr | July 25, 2013 at 8:50 p.m. ― 1 year ago

I don't get it. Some people, Filner included, think that he is a funny boy, a prankster. He is a SEXUAL PREDATOR. Some women do not want to be alone in a room with him. No woman should want to be in a room with him, alone or accompanies. He is a disgrace and an embarassment to the city. He should not represent the city at meetings with other mayors or other government officials or, for that matter anyone at all. He should resign or be drummed out of office.

Women have not come forward in the past because of fear of retribution. Now they do not have to worry about that. They are not alone and they are essentially immune to anything that this predator can do to them.

Get rid of this guy. Do not listen to him or meet with him or pay any attention to him. Do not put him on the radio or TV or give him any air time.

UGH!!! What a mess the city will have until he is ousted. Hurry!!!

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Erip | July 25, 2013 at 9:09 p.m. ― 1 year ago

I don't doubt any of these women, I just wish this information had been made available during the primaries when democrats could have chosen another viable candidate. The timing of this is so strange. They let us down with their silence, and Filner let us down even more. It is time for him to go, it's clear that he has severe issues bordering on a personality disorder/mental illness. He should be ashamed. I just can't believe that his behavior has been so consistent for decades without any consequence until now.

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herberg | July 25, 2013 at 10:28 p.m. ― 1 year ago

I would like to address the larger issue of sexual “harassment” by recounting just some of my experiences with it.

So that I am not misunderstood, I will say that if the accusations against Filner are true, and I would bet they are, he should be punished for not learning anything in his 70 years.

In my first managerial position I oversaw several administrative departments (personnel, cost accounting, records, scheduling, etc.). In our relatively open office space there were two quite attractive secretaries in like a secretarial pool. When I first got there each of them acted and said some flirty things to me. I didn’t follow up on any of it, but the controller I had hired apparently did, because he spent an unnecessary amount of time at their desks. Because of my experience with them, I warned him not to get personal with them. Later one of the secretaries complained to me that he would come over to their apartment and they couldn’t get rid of him. I asked him if he went to their place and he said they invited him and I fired him.

When I hear about Filner’s conduct and know that it has been going on for a long time, then I also know that there are a lot of women along the way who in fact “yielded” or took advantage of Filner’s problem. A lot more than 5 or even 20 women have been “manhandled” by Filner over the years and a lot of them, fear is NOT the reason they are not “coming-forward”. The statement that “power corrupts” particularly applies to politicians because they have no supervisor. We can see the effect in cultures like the Taliban, where men rule.

Later in my career I was a Senior Vice President in charge of several subsidiaries in a fairly large public corporation. The culture of an organization is determined by the CEO. In this case he was overtly lustful. When I arrived there, one of my subordinate officers made it clear to me that she and her husband lived separate lives and she was “available”. Again, I finessed that approach and it never happened again. Another secretary in my domain told me she was available and I ignored that but we were office friends and she shared her attempts at affairs and some successes with other top officers of the company. There was a lot of in-company sexual liaisons that my secretary friend told me about as part of company gossip. And I knew it was true.

So what is the difference between “harassment” and “incest”? Factors such as Power, Presumption, and Circumstance. Evolutionally, men have a more powerful sex drive than women. Evolutionally, men have dominated society and women have, for security reasons, placated men. Sexy fashions are intended to attract men and capitalize on men’s sex drive to establish a relationship that meets a woman’s need for security and self worth. I could make this ten times as long by being more comprehensive in each of these simplified statements. In closing: enlightened introspection is far too rare.

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bigwaves | July 25, 2013 at 10:49 p.m. ― 1 year ago

While Filners behavior may or may not be 'sexual harassment' under the strict legal definition; the reported behavior is entirely unacceptable for a mayor, congressman or indeed anyone in a leadership role. Whether in public office or local industry, all of us expect better behavior of those in prominent roles. Heck, we expect better behavior of all honest citizens.

These womens reports appear entirely credible; together they paint a picture. Sure, some incidents might be rather far in the past, some might appear to be minor or questionable scenario. But taken together they are damning. They show Filner is out of touch and abusive of power, negligent in his attention to the office and as a result has lost his ability to be an active, dare I say, progressive mayor.

Its worthwhile pointing out the information from Veronica Froman. Here is her info :


A retired Navy Admiral. She has surely dealt with a male oriented environment, seen and dealt with 'aggression' and seen many, many incidents of what today is called 'discrimination'. For someone of her background to come forward is truly telling; she has nothing to gain from such revelations.

Really, lets face it. Mayor is a fairly minor job. Its a figure head, its a coordinating role; its a middle manager role. It requires lots of diplomatic negotiation and some measure of leadership of goal setting. Its also ceremonial. A capable congressman should be able to cruise through being a capable mayor.

We can all manage perfectly well without a mayor.
What we do need, is effective city managers. Filner clearly is not an effective manager, but in recent days he has appointed an effective manager, which seem to allow us to concede Filner is not a manager or mayor.

I love San Diego. Lets get a better Mayor.

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bigwaves | July 25, 2013 at 11:03 p.m. ― 1 year ago

KPBS, thank you for the prompt and unbiased reporting on this subjec, you stand apart from the rest of the media.

I suspect your commitment to accurate journalism has been a factor in these women feeling able to 'come out'. I have today committed to doubling my membership pledge to you. I look forward to more quality reporting from KPBS and your excellent staff.

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David_from_San_Diego | July 25, 2013 at 11:20 p.m. ― 1 year ago

I believe all these women are telling the truth, but I'm very angry at THEM! They KNEW that Filner was a dirtbag, but chose to wait until AFTER we elected him mayor to tell US, the voters. This reminds me of Paula Jones, who CHOSE to wait until Bill Clinton had been elected to tell us about HIM.
LESSON: If a politician harasses you, report it to the press IMMEDIATELY, or forever hold your peace.

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David_from_San_Diego | July 25, 2013 at 11:22 p.m. ― 1 year ago

... and they should have reported it to the Speaker of the House, too!

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bwaderunner | July 26, 2013 at 7:08 a.m. ― 1 year ago

I bet a big box of donuts (can't afford cronuts) that these women worked in offices throughout their careers full of men who did the same thing (well, maybe except for the headlock thing that's pretty stupid) and didn't report a thing. But now...payday on the horizon. May they find joy in the money as it cannot buy dignity or class.

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Mmikey | July 26, 2013 at 8:02 a.m. ― 1 year ago

lawyers are salivating at the expected payoffs

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 26, 2013 at 9:04 a.m. ― 1 year ago

I have worked in the corporate world for over a decade now, and I understand why the women were hesitant to come forward.

You tend to make excuses because you don't want to harm your career.

It happens in the "gay world" as well.

When I was a little younger, about 7-8 years ago, I had a boss who was gay and he always teetered right on that line of appropriate vs. inappropriate.

He would flirt but he never actually groped, he would ask me out, but wouldn't directly imply my job depended on it. I would go out with him in social situations with other people but never one on one, and luckily he didn't penalize me at work for it.

But if he had, what proof would I have?

He had a lot of power and was in tight with senior management.

If I had complained about it, they would have found a "legal" way to get me out the door.

I was younger, mid twenties, and told myself "you play the game or you get nowhere".

And I saw it happening to other people too. There was another manager at the same company who had an attraction for petite Asian women, and he showed blatant favortism to ladies who fit that profile.

There were rumors that he had a sexual affair with one of them.

If that was true or not I don't know, but I did see them holding hands at lunch one day, and he was quite a bit older.

My point is - don;t judge these women for not aggressively coming forward early on.

It's easy to say you would have done the same thing, but when you are working towards a career that will impact your entire life and you have someone who can greatly influence said career making sexual innuendos, you are scared and intimidated.

And you also have to wonder "what will happen to me if they don't believe me".

I applaud all the women who have been brave enough to come forward now, and I don't judge them one bit for not doing so earlier.

It's a sad reality about the world today, but sometimes you do have to make the choice - put up with a little humiliation or don't get that promotion.

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CaptD | July 26, 2013 at 9:16 a.m. ― 1 year ago

These four women lost credibility when they did not speak up immediately.

The Mayor of San Diego is a single guy and any one of the described "actions" would deserve no more than a firm shake of the head and some strong language if it happened to a women at a party!

I believe what we are really seeing is a "witch hunt" (no pun intended) because Mayor Filner is not playing ball with the Big Money people in $an Diego. They are using their money and political clout to try to get him removed from office, so he can be replaced with someone that will cater to their demands for ever more BIG Projects like the stadium deal that put our City in Debt, while making them richer!

Where is MSM's reporting about the multi-Billion dollar SCE/SDG&E rip off that occurred at San Onofre that ratepayers are still paying $70 Million a month for?

Why are Big Companies like Jack in the Box, thumbing their noses at City codes and expecting to get away with it?

Why are the real news stories not being aired except perhaps in the SD Reader?

Wake up San Diego, it's past time to stop being force fed T & A scandal stories and start demanding real news about our City that affects all of us instead of just more he said, she said fluff "High School" story.

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OldLadyNow | July 26, 2013 at 10:38 a.m. ― 1 year ago

Maybe we could thank Mayor Filner for prompting us to talk with our friends, loved ones, kids and coworkers about harrassment and inappropriate, unwanted sexual remarks and behavior. I'm sure many among us are cringing at our own memories of being a giver or receiver of unwanted comments, questions, touching, etc. Thank you, Bob Filner, for putting a spotlight on an ugly aspect of our culture and perhaps putting a speed bump in front of it for other people. (I hope.)

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twells | July 26, 2013 at 11:08 a.m. ― 1 year ago

Stop blaming the women in this situation! As an independent, there is no way I would go towards either party because they make such lame excuses for their badly behaving members. Shame on the Democrats for supporting Filner for sop long when they knew of his “transgressions.”

His poor judgment in these cases put hits fitness for mayor in serious question. How can you be trusted to make serious decision for the citizenry of San Diego if you cannot even resist your primal urges? No one in government service at this point in time is unaware of sexual harassment and what sexual harassment means … it is ingrained with the MANY required trainings, tailgates, memos, meetings, etc. Defending him only paints you as a zealot.

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CaptD | July 26, 2013 at 11:54 a.m. ― 1 year ago

I bet Mayor Filner will take some time off, take some sexual awareness training and come back ready to kick some butt...

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These recall people are going to look silly when they fail....
Mayor Filner is a Strong Mayor, and will not be BULLIED

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Why are those women that seek to discredit him, supported by Big SD Power Politics & the UT, while other SD News is avoided?

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strata66 | July 26, 2013 at 12:38 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Sooo happy he is going to get some therapy and work through this mess. He's a GOOD MAN and I am so proud for him to be MY MAYOR. Don't forget we have the Panama-California Exposition coming up in 2015 and he will be absolutely pivotal in making it a huge success. He's a people person I feel, accessible, friendly, sincere and loving. What would be the alternative to him? Nobody is more charismatic, eh? Plus!! Plus!! He has given San Diego more national news coverage than even the mighty Chargers, good or bad. Heck yeah! Everybody is going to want to come here now and and the Kingdom will thrive. GO BOB!!

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 26, 2013 at 12:46 p.m. ― 1 year ago

strata, he's not effective now.

I voted for him, I think he is good at governing.

I agree with his policies.

But, he has a personal problem.

And that problem is starting to render him ineffective.

The person he appointed to head arts and culture resigned today.

He needs to step-aside.

He may be a good man who is afflicted with a sexual compulsion or even neurological problem (as the neurologist on the noon-time program said), but the city still needs to be run.

He needs to step-aside as mayor and work through his issues.

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MalcolmSanDiego | July 26, 2013 at 12:56 p.m. ― 1 year ago

If there's a recall--and I will vote him out--he's through! Filner is not being bullied; he IS the bully. How can something bad be called good?

I seriously doubt, strata66, Filner is a people person. That is hilarious.

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strata66 | July 26, 2013 at 1:59 p.m. ― 1 year ago

He was elected, he is entrenched, and he is going nowhere. He apologized profusely to his "victims" and is seeking help, that's enough for me. What are the damages to these women anyway? So he touched a butt, hardly mind-altering. He tried to kiss another, pffft. These are grown women who should know how to rebuff an advance, however minor they are. All this man did was violate a social more', he is guilty of that. But the punishment FAR exceeds his "crime." He is getting help for it and on Aug 19th, 2013 you will see a new and improved Bob. So hang on to your hats eh? Bob will be back for 3 more years and nobody is going to do anything about it. He still has a lot of people on his side and we don't want war.

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twells | July 26, 2013 at 3:11 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Strata66, if Filner were not of your party, you would be calling for his blood. You are a symbol of the problem in that party affiliation trumps all. Call a spade a spade. He is a bad politician and should not represent the 8th largest city on the United States.

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strata66 | July 26, 2013 at 3:28 p.m. ― 1 year ago

All you haters on the hysterical hate wagon do not see the big picture. He did almost nothing to grown mature women. Wake up! There is no damage, only rhetoric and he is not going anywhere for 3 more years. The Donna Frye's of this town can scream at the top of their lungs like stuck bleeding chickens all they want but Bob is not leaving. Bob is YOUR MAYOR like it or not. Capitulate now or capitulate later :)

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twells | July 26, 2013 at 3:39 p.m. ― 1 year ago

It is amazing how far demagogues will go to support their pol as long as the party affiliation is correct! Frye, Gonzalez, & Briggs tried to get the mayor to do the honorable thing. Now he is doing it the hard way. Either way, his judgment in these cases put hits fitness for mayor in serious question.

He is my mayor and he is an embarrassment. Hopefully, we will have the option to change this fact in the near future.

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TheDiegan | July 26, 2013 at 3:43 p.m. ― 1 year ago

All of this talk about how other Democrats in Congress must have known about Filner--about how he was called Filthy Filner and what not--and how these others must have just kept quiet about his way of acting is just bunk! Those folks would tell us if they knew before he ran for mayor, now wouldn't they.

I am sure there was no cover-up happening. He just got tired of being in Congress and now he is our mayor.

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MarineRoom | July 26, 2013 at 7:50 p.m. ― 1 year ago

Cap'n:

I certainly agree that politics and money go together like a cup and saucer, and when recalls are attempted, a whole slough of Aristotle's final causes should be included in analyzing the action. Emotions, however, cannot be entirely discounted in motivation.

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