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Roundtable: Gay Rights Victory, San Diego Hospice Bankruptcy, Climate Change Challenge

KPBS Roundtable

Roundtable June 28

Aired 6/28/13 on KPBS Midday Edition.

Joanne Faryon, inewsource

Thom Senzee, 429 Magazine

Susan White, InsideClimate News


Gay Rights Victory

The U.S. Supreme Court made two historic rulings this week on same-sex marriage. In a 5 to 4 vote, the justices declared the Defense of Marriage Act, passed during the second Clinton administration, was unconstitutional.

The court also let stand a lower-court ruling that overturned California's Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. Taken together, the rulings were seen as a victory for the LGBT community and supporters who view same-sex marriage as a matter of civil rights.

San Diego Hospice Bankruptcy

In February, San Diego Hospice filed for bankruptcy. That was in the wake of a two-year investigation examining the allegations that the organization had long accepted and billed Medicare for patients who were not eligible for it. The federal government claims that San Diego Hospice owes $112 million.

Climate Change Challenge

A new report issued jointly by military analysts and planners from the U.S. and Great Britain states that national security depends on putting a halt to the burning of fossil fuels. The report buttresses President Barack Obama's initiative this week to cut emissions from coal-fired power plants and other measures to fight global warming.

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sandiegopam | June 30, 2013 at 5:33 p.m. ― 3 years, 9 months ago

Thank you for the Roundtable show---nice to see discussion on issues of local significance. During the June 28th broadcast, the commentary regarding the recent Supreme Court decisions on gay marriage was informative, but I was disappointed by the lack of balanced reporting. This is a complex, deeply personal and sensitive subject and very fine people are on both sides of this issue. Frankly, I thought it was unnecessarily offensive of one of the commentators to, in essence, broadly compare those who support traditional marriage to the KKK. Although people obviously disagree with those who have opposing views---even vehemently---I hope we would always treat each other with respect and without stereotype.

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SeeTheWorld | July 3, 2013 at 12:03 a.m. ― 3 years, 8 months ago

People like to say the same-sex marriage issue is a matter of opinion on which both sides are equally valid. I disagree with that opinion. It is a matter of discrimination and fairness, and in such matters the opinion that one group should be discriminated against is not a valid opinion. Substitute any other group of people in place of gays and lesbians and see if you still think it's ok to deny them the same rights that everyone else has. For instance, did you know that until DOMA was overturned, if employees added their same-sex spouses to their health insurance at work they had to pay a federal tax on the value of that benefit, whereas employees with opposite-sex spouses on the same plan got that benefit tax free? This is the point that was being made -- that it's not ok to single out one group of people for adverse treatment like that, yet there were 1100+ federal benefits that same-sex married couples were barred from getting that opposite-sex married couples have always gotten. Personal feelings and religious beliefs do not make that discrimination ok, and it is not a matter of "balance" to present the belief that unequal treatment under the law is acceptable.

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ZeroTolerance | July 3, 2013 at 6:32 a.m. ― 3 years, 8 months ago

The 5th Amendment to the Constitution, part of our Bill of Rights, reads, "No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." The Supreme Court has spoken. Why are there opposing views - except by people pushing an American agenda? We've heard enough of those! As to people "supporting traditional marriage," they haven't lost anything except perhaps some ostensible authority to bully those not eligible to join their ranks.

With the 4th of July upon is, it's good to remember part of our Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." An inalienable Right is one that you cannot be deprived of *without due process.*

So, yes, the subject is closed to further debate. We no more want to hear the deranged rants of haters, whether they belong to the KKK or "support traditional marriage." Time to love and move on.

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DeLaRick | July 3, 2013 at 8:32 a.m. ― 3 years, 8 months ago

"Marriage equality" will go down as one of the galvanizing slogans ever. Strictly genius.

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Missionaccomplished | July 3, 2013 at 11:43 a.m. ― 3 years, 8 months ago

SANDIEGOPAM, that's just it--that's the whole problem. Obviously Mr. John Warren is no longer a particpant in those "roundtables," others, I very much doubt that the whiney doctrinairian coward, whomever it was, would have dared compared the Ku Klux Klan, (in whatever of its incarnations) to CA citizens that voted FOR Proposition 8 in 2008--AND as a poll worker in that big election, that included MANY African-American Obama supporters at that time. So take that hard fact and digest it. (I'm referring to the roundtable participant whomever it was.)

And yes, Pam, it is a very complex issue--more so than either side would care to admit and I certainly do NOT condiser it a "political issue." But that's American politics today, I guess--debate on the bumper sticker level.

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Missionaccomplished | July 3, 2013 at 11:46 a.m. ― 3 years, 8 months ago

See, Pam, DLR is a perfect example of the bumper sticker level debate.

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DeLaRick | July 3, 2013 at 12:46 p.m. ― 3 years, 8 months ago


That slogan worked where lots of others failed. By defintion, a success. Reducing complex issues to slogans is the way it's done nowadays, whether we like it or not. The "issue introduction-acknowledgement-outrage-synthesis-refinement" dialectic has replaced reasoned debates and "town halls." You can call me a bumper sticker dummy if you must. It doesn't change anything. (On the other hand, "marriage equality" did change something.)

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