It is National Day of Reconciliation in South Africa, a public holiday created in 1994 after the end of apartheid to promote racial harmony and heal past divisions. But 16 years after the official end of apartheid, a new survey shows that there is still deep distrust between blacks and whites. Host Michel Martin discusses reconciliation and race relations in South Africa with Ferial Haffajee, editor of the weekly City Press newspaper and Jan Hofmeyr, who's with the Institute for Justice and Reconciliation.