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Superior Court Judge Candidate Has ‘Sincere’ Doubts About Obama’s Citizenship

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Above: Gary George Kreep, a candidate for San Diego County Superior Court Judge, talks to KPBS.

As of 5 p.m. Monday, Gary George Kreep was 601 votes behind Garland Peed in the race to be a San Diego County Superior Court Judge.

But Kreep has made news before this tight election. After President Barack Obama's inauguration, Kreep took on a so-called "birther" lawsuit demanding proof of Obama's birth certificate. He is also currently suing the California Secretary of State, demanding she verify citizenship of all candidates before they appear on the November ballot.

Kreep said the purpose of the lawsuit against Obama was "we believe it's important to protect the Constitution, it's important for people to have faith in our government, to have faith in our elected officials."

"Mr. Obama's spending of over $2 million, according to published reports, to keep people from seeing his real birth certificate, which no one has yet seen, we've seen computer compilations of various documents that are supposed to be the real birth certificate," he said.

Kreep said he has "sincere doubts" Obama is a U.S. citizen.

"According to his paternal step-grandmother, who stated in a published statement that no one has ever disputed, he was born in Mombassa, what is now Kenya, and she performed a Zulu birth ritual on him," Kreep said. "Now why would his own family say he was born in Mombassa?"

McClatchy Newspapers reported in 2009 that a full tape recording of that interview shows Obama's step-grandmother later clarifying, "Obama was not born in Mombassa. He was born in America."

On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal challenging Obama's citizenship.

Kreep said "questions have been raised" about whether presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is a citizen. But Kreep said he does not have concerns about Romney's citizenship.

If Kreep is elected, he does not think his position on these issues will affect his credibility.

"Representing clients has nothing to do with handing out justice," he said. "Judges make law every day, and judges need to be open minded."

"If I am elected, my role as a judge is to uphold the United States Constitution, then the California Constitution, then the laws of the state," he said. "My personal views really have nothing to do with how I rule on cases, I have to follow the law, that's what I'm required to do."

"My world view is based on the Bible, is based on the Constitution," he added. "If you read the Founding Fathers' documents, they based the Constitution on the Bible, you look at the Declaration of Independence, they're not talking about some esoteric thing, they're talking about God."

As of the end of the day Monday, 26,000 absentee ballots had yet to be counted. Peed declined to be interviewed until the final vote count was released.


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Peking_Duck_SD | June 11, 2012 at 4:44 p.m. ― 3 years ago

Mr. Kreep is just another racist idiot hiding behind "the Bible" to justify his insane, outrageous views.

Either this person is stupid or they are preying on the stupid - - my guess is it's likely a combination of the two.

Thank goodness it looks like he is going to lose.

I'm offended he was even taken seriously as a candidate for a judge.

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JohnL | June 11, 2012 at 8:35 p.m. ― 3 years ago

If any of previous post is inaccurate please feel free to correct or expand
Wikipedia Kreep and learn more

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TheKindGardenersCollective | June 12, 2012 at 9:12 a.m. ― 3 years ago

And I have GRAVE doubts about Gary Kreep...

Does that warrant MY interview on the next KPBS Evening Edition?

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WilliamRawle | June 12, 2012 at 4:07 p.m. ― 3 years ago

Mr Kreep is mistaken on three counts.

1) President Obama released his Birth Certificate in 2008 and again in 2011. Just last months the Department of Health in Hawaii has verified that the information onthose two copies of his birth certificate match the information on file at the DOH.

2) President Obama has not spent $2 million dollars sealing his records. This figure represents the amount of legal fees his campaigned spent after the election on everything involved in shutdowning a Presidential campaign.

3) As indicated in the story, his grandmother in Kenya did not say that she was present at his birth or that she performed some type of ritual.

Not an auspicious start for someone who wants to be a judge.

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Joanne Faryon, KPBS Staff | June 12, 2012 at 8:54 p.m. ― 3 years ago


Thanks for setting the record straight about President Obama's birth certificate. During the interview, I made a decision not to enter into a debate about Mr. Obama's citizenship - I believe it's a fact he is an American citizen and not worthy of debate.
But again, thanks for the fact check.

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Missionaccomplished | June 13, 2012 at 9:39 a.m. ― 3 years ago

I sure hope we don't have to see a "Judge Creep."

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Soran | June 13, 2012 at 4:12 p.m. ― 3 years ago

In addition to the items identified by WilliamRawle above, there are an additional two false statements that Mr. Kreep made with regard to the President's birth.

4) Hawaii Governor Abercrombie never said that the state did not have a birth certificate in its records. This was initially claimed by a gossip reporter, Mike Evans, but Evans later retracted and admitted that he had not spoken to Governor Abercrombie at all, much less that the Governor had made this private confession.

5) There have never been any Obama "cousins" who have claimed that he was born in Kenya. Not even cousins who have been misinterpreted or taken out of context.

Similarly, the above-mentioned "Zulu birth ritual" isn't just a false rumor, but a novel claim that I've never heard anywhere before. Nor is Google familiar with it. Mr. Kreep seems to have created that one out of whole cloth for this interview.

I wholly understand the decision not to debate a topic as ridiculous as this during an interview. But for someone within reach of a judicial office, Mr. Kreep dropped an awful lot of debunked lies and rumors within a mere minute of airtime, any one of which would rate a "Pants on Fire" rating on the PolitiFact scale.

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JohnL | June 13, 2012 at 5:39 p.m. ― 3 years ago

Gary Kreep was the attorney for Personhood Nevada, an anti-abortion political organization and has been honored by the anti-choice group Operation Rescue for “his services to the community.” he has served as General Counsel to the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.Highly controversial Fundamentalist pastor, Wiley Drake, hired Kreep to pursue a lawsuit challenging Obama’s birthplace and presidency.He is also co-founder of United States Justice Foundation along with "2 other conservative's" who are not listed on website or where funding comes from.In 1992, the gay community and the Anti-Defamation League expressed outrage when Kreep brought his “purportedly anti-homosexual views” to San Diego’s Human Relations Commission.

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JohnL | June 13, 2012 at 6:11 p.m. ― 3 years ago

I believe J.Faryon was right not to engage in debate on birth certificate,more importantly
are the views such as An article on the USJF website that is entitled,Can One Be A True Democrat And A True Christian? From the article,"Lying about EVERYTHING they wish to do to this country is part of being a good Democrat""What's Christian about being a good Democrat?Not Much."

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HarryStreet | June 14, 2012 at 10:41 a.m. ― 3 years ago

Amazing how this still warrants discussion.

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JohnL | June 14, 2012 at 6:40 p.m. ― 3 years ago

David65,I've noticed you post this several times on articles you don't agree with,when a TV show comes on you don't like do you..
A.change channel? station to complain?
This story is one of the most important on KPBS and outcome will profoundly affect all SD county,and Calif.residents directly.It surely can be shown that voter apathy and ignorance has led to this close election.

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JohnL | June 19, 2012 at 5:20 p.m. ― 3 years ago

I hope J.Faryon will give us an update to this and whether San Diego will be the laughing stock of the country by having elected the first "birther"judge.

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Missionaccomplished | June 19, 2012 at 8:06 p.m. ― 3 years ago

John L, well, we are now--not that we weren't already a large cow town. C'mon KPBS , get on the ball, Creep just won!

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Joanne Faryon, KPBS Staff | June 20, 2012 at 9:54 a.m. ― 3 years ago

We're on it! Mr. Kreep will be on KPBS Evening Edition tonight!

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Peking_Duck_SD | June 20, 2012 at 1:30 p.m. ― 3 years ago

Joanne my dear! Are you allowed to have a cocktail before the interview?? How you stay composed when brought face to face with the likes of Kreep is beyond me!! :)

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Peking_Duck_SD | June 20, 2012 at 1:32 p.m. ― 3 years ago


Election decided - CHECK

Kreep in office - CHECK

San Diego nation's laughing stock - CHECK

*sigh* :(

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JeanMarc | June 20, 2012 at 2:26 p.m. ― 3 years ago

I don't mind being the nations laughing stock as long as we have this great weather. They can laugh all they want.

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Joanne Faryon, KPBS Staff | June 20, 2012 at 5:24 p.m. ― 3 years ago


Cocktails AFTER interviews

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Len | June 23, 2012 at 5:44 p.m. ― 3 years ago

I apologize, Ms Faryon, for that post. You conducted a good interview of Mr Kreep. I made the stupid, embarassing mistake of conflating you with another KPBS broadcaster, who could benefit from preparation for her programs, and with a different interview. As I said, a dumb error, for which I offer my regrets.

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Joanne Faryon, KPBS Staff | June 23, 2012 at 6:39 p.m. ― 3 years ago

Hi Len,

No apology necessary. I appreciate the fact so many people feel strongly about this issue and are comfortable commenting. I hope you continue to watch the show and let us know your thoughts from time to time.

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Outside2view | June 27, 2012 at 11:56 a.m. ― 3 years ago

Where did Mr. Kreep hear that there was a "Zulu ceremony" performed at the presidents birth?

This ia a typical error of mioptic view of the world shared by many.. I would remind Mr. Kreep that the predominant African tribe in Kenya is the Masai. To be a "Zulu" ceremony it would have been 2000 miles to the south in Kwazulu South Africa. That is approximately the distance between San Diego and Quezaltenango Guatemala! Get the difference?

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