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Carl DeMaio Says His Support For Same-Sex Marriage Separate From Role As Mayor

Evening Edition

City Councilman and mayoral candidate Carl DeMaio talks to KPBS.

Aired 5/14/12 on KPBS Midday Edition.


Carl DeMaio, San Diego City Councilman, district 5 and candidate for mayor in the City of San Diego.


City Councilman and mayoral candidate Carl DeMaio is an openly gay man and has accepted more than $100,000 in donations from new U-T San Diego owner Doug Manchester. In 2008, Manchester donated $125,000 to Proposition 8 to ban same-sex marriage in California.

DeMaio said he "obviously" supports gay marriage, but said he views his role as mayor as separate from that.

"Obviously I have strongly held personal views, the issues that are important to me as Carl, an individual, a private citizen, but my role as mayor is quite different," he said. "My role as mayor is to stay focused on the issues, the crisis that the city faces."

"What's more important, the mayor beating the drum on social issues that really don't have anything to do with city government, or the mayor staying focused on resolving the fiscal crisis and restoring important neighborhood services?" he asked.

DeMaio said Manchester supports him because he gets pension reform and fiscal reform results.

DeMaio, who is the front-runner in the mayor's race, has sometimes been criticized for not being completely upfront with voters.

During KPBS' mayoral debate, DeMaio said the Convention Center expansion would be funded by private investment from the hotel owners. Voice of San Diego fact checked this statement and called it "Huckster Propaganda," the lowest rating on their lie detector scale.

DeMaio defended his statement to KPBS.

"What the hoteliers are doing is not raising the TOT (Transient Occupancy Tax) tax, which would be a general fund tax, they're creating a self-assessment district, and my point is, Mr. Filner, earlier in the debate, had said 'let's use that money for public purposes,'" DeMaio said. "It's not allowed to be used for public purposes because like a Mello-Roos, it can only go to the communities or the individuals that raise it."

DeMaio said the point to focus on is the importance of the Convention Center to San Diego's economy.

"In politics, instead of focusing on what the people want, jobs, an important expansion to our Convention Center which supports a key part of our economy, these politicians in the political debate are about splitting hairs," he said.

"The point was being made that you could use it for public purposes, and the reality is, and you'll find that the city attorney agrees with me, that the money can only go to the Convention Center if it's being raised by the hoteliers," he said.

City Attorney Jan Goldsmith has told KPBS that passing a tax on hotel rooms without a public vote “tests the boundaries of the law,” but that he will file a validation lawsuit to test the plan's legality.

Also during KPBS' debate, DeMaio questioned fellow candidate Nathan Fletcher on whether he was under investigation by the city's Ethics Commission. The complaint against Fletcher with the Ethics Commission had been dismissed the previous day, and critics said DeMaio was aware of that when he made that claim.

But DeMaio said his campaign did not know about the dismissal and wanted to question why Fletcher's campaign had spent a large amount of money on ethics lawyers.

"Nobody knew that it had been resolved and the ethics commission confirmed that," he said. "We were asking a legitimate question, why do you have so much, how many bills do you have for ethics lawyers?"

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dialyn | May 14, 2012 at 12:10 p.m. ― 4 years, 10 months ago

I've been buried with pro-DeMaio, anti-Fletcher propaganda from DeMaio's group, and I am thoroughly tired of the waste of money for streams of negativity from this guy. He is interested in one thing and one thing only: selling the City to corporations, and he plays Twister with the truth. Definitely not on my list of considered candidates.

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Peking_Duck_SD | May 14, 2012 at 2:48 p.m. ― 4 years, 10 months ago

Does Dirty Carl have a campaign budget that dwarfs everyone else?

I turn on the tv, I see him lying.

I go to check the mail and I see his porky face on hundreds of littered pamphlets spread with lies.

I hear he's even on front page wrap-arounds of the local paper because owner Old Man Manchester has fingered Dirty Carl as his pick for mayor.

Dirty Carl is everywhere, it's over-exposure, and it's really making me nauseated.

This is clealy a foreshadowing of what a Mayor Dirty Carl would be like - his face, his ego, and his tycoon friends like Old Man Manchester would be in our faces like white on rice manipulating ever square inch of San Diego.

Old Man Manchester already owns the county's largest media outlet and has big development plans to get pushed through city hall, all he needs to complete his grip on power is to have a puppet in office he can control like Dirty Carl.

Here is what Filthy DeMaio's *real* campaign slogan should be:

**Elect Papa Papa Manchester King of San Diego, Vote DeMaio this June the 5th**

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Peking_Duck_SD | May 14, 2012 at 6:29 p.m. ― 4 years, 10 months ago

By the way, THANK YOU to KPBS for asking Carl to reconcile his endorsements from people like homophobic Old Man Manchester and his being a gay man.

I asked for it and you delivered, very impressive.

It's nice to have a media outlet in San Diego that actually reads and listens to what their consumers are saying!

With that said, DeMaio's answer is simply festering **rubbish**.

Just like a typical sleaze politician, Dirty Carl is trying to wiggle out of this one like a slimy worm surfacing in a pile of "naturally fertilized" soil after a rainstorm.

Anyone who denies gay marriage is not political right now is living under a rock or, as in Dirty Carl's case, just wants to ignore it.

I have said it before and will say it again:

It's not a **gay** issue, it's a **character issue**.

Dirty Carl is so desperate to be mayor he is willing to accept endorsements from people who think he is personally disgusting. That is a sell out and shows Mr. Carl have very little self respect.

Old Man Manchester doesn't respect DeMaio, Old Man Manchester wants one thing and one thing only: to amass totalitarian power in San Diego so he can live out the end of his life putting his stamp on the city by making it his own personal little playground.

He already controls the media here, he controls development, now he needs to control city hall as well.

He is absolutely willing to endorse someone he finds personally disgusting as long as he has influence, and that's why he chose Dirty Carl - because Dirty Carl is the one most likely to allow Old Man Manchester to manipulate things from behind the curtain.

It says a lot about DeMaio's lack of character as a human being that he would allow himself to be used like this.

And it doesn't stop with Old Kooky Crank Manchester, either. Dirty Carl has enthusiastically accepted endorsements from:

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Peking_Duck_SD | May 14, 2012 at 6:52 p.m. ― 4 years, 10 months ago

**Roger Hedgecock**
This former mayor cum felon cum right wing radio ghoul has been known for a plethora of homophobic outbursts and actions that target the gay community.

He tried one year to disrupt gay pride by forming a group he called "normal people" that he wanted to march in the parade yelling out homophobic remarks. When the pride committee didn't allow his group to participate, he sued.

He constantly makes hateful remarks, and has said the ony reason gays want to join the military is be ause it's "where the boys are".

What does it say about DeMaio that he would a cept an endorsement for someone who has been so mean and hateful to a community with which Carl belongs?

**Larry "Lysol" Stirling**
This homophobe has given the maximum allowable contribution to the DeMaio campaign.

Here is what Sterling did in the 90s (Copied from an *LA Times* article:

“San Diego County Municipal Judge Larry W. Stirling displayed ignorance about AIDS when he ordered court workers to clean and mop the courtroom after an appearance by a defendant who had tested positive for the AIDS virus.”

Stirling’s response “Being HIV positive doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have a full-blown case of AIDS. If you saw this fellow, you’d think he was suffering from AIDS.”

During his time in the California state Assembly and Senate, Stirling voted time and time again against legislation that was favorable to the LGBT community, and opposed HIV/AIDS funding. Stirling also signed the California Marriage Protection Pledge that was aimed at rolling back LGBT gains in terms of hospital visitation and domestic partnership benefits in 2004. Stirling also supported a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.

**Bottom Line:**

I don't expect any mayor, either gay or straight, to be "all about the gay".

But I also don't expect a mayor to completely completely ignore a major civil rights struggle and even align themselves against their own self interest simply to get their butt in the mayor's seat.

**It shows poor character, very little self-respect, and little moral aptitude for Carl to accept endorsements from people who have expressed ill will towards the LGBT community, used ignorance to discriminate as Sterling did, and who have worked hard to create hateful legislation and a hateful environment.**

**By accepting endorsements from these hateful people, you, Carl, are lending a hand to hate, bigotry, and divisiveness.**

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Missionaccomplished | May 15, 2012 at 8:13 a.m. ― 4 years, 10 months ago

De Mayonaisse is absolutely correct about the main issue here, his role as a mayoral candidate is separate from his personal side. That's how it should be for ANY candidate IF they want to command any RESPECT from and maintain some degree of professionalism.

As far as the other issues or his character flaws, yes, he is defiantely a weasel. Funny, however, how former KOGO radio talk show host, Chris Reed, a self-styled libertarian, was all for him.

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Peking_Duck_SD | May 15, 2012 at 10:30 a.m. ― 4 years, 10 months ago

So mission, you are saying politicians should not weigh-in on social issues period?

Or they should not weigh-I on social issues when they have a personal connection to them?

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