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Roundtable: Filner Saga Rolls On; North Park vs Jack In The Box; Issa On Climate Change

KPBS Roundtable

Roundtable August 16

Aired 8/16/13 on KPBS Midday Edition.


Mark Sauer


Tony Perry, LA Times

Dorian Hargrove, San Diego Reader

Susan White, InsideClimate News


The Continuing Saga of Bob Filner

It's been a big couple of weeks for San Diego's mayor.

He's now been deserted by all nine members of the City Council, state Senator Darrell Steinberg, U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer, former Mayor/Senator/Governor Pete Wilson and nearly 80 percent of the population of San Diego.

There aren't many left in Filner's corner.

His official response on Monday to the recall effort against him included a list of his achievements and the statement that “Now is not the time to go backwards."

The recall continues to lumber forward anyway in spite of the many obstacles (deadlines and funding chief among them) strewn in its path.

Frustrated that the city has had no one to lobby state and federal agencies on its behalf for the past eight months, the council wants to strip Filner of his intergovernment responsibilities.

But wait. There's more.

Attorney Gloria Allred on Thursday offered up a city employee who has filed sexual harassment complaints against the mayor. The fading and much-derided Hooters chain said Filner is not welcome in its restaurants. And UT-TV blurred the lines by asking the mayor to resign via a musical parody of a Robin Thicke song.

Where and when will it all end?

The Mayor And The Jack In The Box

In spite of intense neighborhood opposition and zoning rules that prohibit restaurant drive-throughs for new construction, Jack in the Box is rebuilding and expanding its North Park restaurant on 30th and Upas with the drive-through window in place.

The restaurant's drive-through closes at 2:30 a.m. and offers its neighbors the added feature of early morning deliveries and trash pick-up.

The company says the new construction is a remodel and therefore the drive-through can stay. The mayor said the number of walls knocked down meant it was new construction instead of a remodel and that the company completely misled residents about expansion plans.

He said he wanted work on the project halted.

But the City Attorney's office outlined possible liability issues, and the mayor's office decided not to issue the stop-work order after all.

The company hired a local firm to get the project through City Hall.

This week, residents filed a lawsuit.

Climate Change? What Climate Change?

A coalition of local environmental groups gave San Diego Congressman Darrell Issa an award this week for being a denier of climate change. The award was in the shape of a unicorn, an animal that doesn’t exist.

The presenters handed out the award during Tuesday’s national day of action, saying Issa's voting record on almost every environmental issue is abysmal.

Last week, the California Environmental Protection Agency issued a 240-page report on the impact to the Golden State of the changing climate, including warming lakes, rising sea levels, increasing wildfires and changing eco-systems.

While most Democrats agree that climate change is a fact, Issa is among several Republican members of congress from impacted states to deny the problem.

Among deniers in the House of Representatives are Paul Gosar of Arizona, who represents the area ravaged by the June Yarnell Fire, which killed 19 firefighters; Michael Grimm of Staten Island, parts of which were blown away by Hurricane Sandy; and Scott Tipton of Colorado, a state ruined first by drought and wildfires and now by floods.

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waifjam | August 16, 2013 at 12:48 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

As an architect, I process various permits for clients. Utmost care must be given when working with pre-conforming rights. Development services and building inspectors are very exact in the rules. I guarantee that if this was a Mom- Pop restaurant they would not be allowed to continue. No Jan Goldsmith is a shill for the corporate masters in the city. It is pretty obvious Bob Filner is creepy but politically fights for us, the 99%.

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progressivebuthey | August 16, 2013 at 1:11 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

can we recall issa too? please.

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MarineRoom | August 16, 2013 at 1:18 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago


Definitely. This is no remodel. It was totally rebuilt. Not one exterior or interior wall was left standing. Like Phoenix rising from the ashes, what to anyone else is a new structure entirely, to Jan Goldsmith is a remodel, because Jack told him so.

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thompsonrichard | August 16, 2013 at 1:38 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

I detest the huge billboard disgracing our city near the Grantville Trolley Station facing Freeway 8 east and west. Incidentally, what 80 %?

Dr. John E. Warren in a Aug. 15, 2013 San Diego Voice & Viewpoint Editorial spoke against the snide innuendos about Bob Filner, for example, the San Diego Mayor's taking women to the Westgate Hotel.

Eight charges totaling $511? That hotel has gold toilet fixtures! At $40 average, he and the women he escorted weren't doing much.

J. Edgar Hoover was convinced that Martin Luther King Jr. had a super-sized libido.Both Bob and Martin did time: Mississippi State Pen and Birmingham Jail, respectively. But neither stint was for violating employed women under their control. Mayor Filner did almost two months in Mississippi State Penitentiary -- Parchment Farm -- notorious for its trusty oversight (since outlawed).

Nor can I see -- again, in agreement with Dr. John E. Warren -- why almost a quarter-million Filner votes should be overthrown in a putsch. Straight out of Hitler's playbook!

Meanwhile, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris, the Canadian utility was buying California electricity, shipping it to Canada and then exporting it back to the state at huge markups.
For Powerex, the settlement represents a discount from a potential liability of $3.2 billion. The utility was the target of a slew of lawsuits.

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Missionaccomplished | August 16, 2013 at 1:55 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

Recall Issa.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 16, 2013 at 2:03 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

I would sign an Issa recall petition in a heartbeat.

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muckapoo1 | August 16, 2013 at 4:13 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

Thank all that is good for Issa. You libocrats hate anyone who brings the truth. Anyone who believes the preaching of Al Gore on climate changes must believe in the Easter Bunny. Get a brain !!!!!!!!!

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TheDiegan | August 16, 2013 at 4:32 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

First: The table is, like, oblong, dudes. Hence, a roundtable discussion is not possible.

Second: Al Gore was right on when he claimed the oceans would rise twenty feet in the next hundred years. He said that back in 1992, so let's see, that was twenty years ago, which is 1/5th of a century, so 1/5th of twenty feet . . . hmmm, I guess the oceans have risen 4 feet since 1992, then. Wooooah. So THAT'S why my cottage in O.B. is, like, floating four feet in the air, dude. That fact makes Issa's real, real dumb for not believing. Come to O.B., brutha...see what Gaia has wrought.

Third: Filner will protect us all from people who, like, want to do their whole improvement thing, like that roundheaded clown named Jack who wants to sell food.

He's Filner . . . any way he can!

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MalcolmSanDiego | August 16, 2013 at 5:57 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

I trust climate change;

I trust Jack-in-the-Box almost as much as climate change. Jack will be Jack...what's, significantly, not to trust? A world w/out JintheB just wouldn't be the same;

and, I totally distrust Filner.

I would have to vote for Jack over Filner any day. Jack could potentially save this city:-)

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muckapoo1 | August 17, 2013 at 8:35 a.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

At least Jack would add a few jobs. Seems that since Bozo has been mayor, unemployment is on the rise. Are people upset because Jack outsmarted the clown mayor? I'll take a number 3 with a milkshake to eat in.

BTW, I do think there is climate change. It is the same as it has been for millions of years. And as it always will be. Al Gore was no genius, he was just a lot smarter than the dummies willing to buy his unscientific theory. Sort of a Chicken Licken story. The sky is falling for those who are too lazy to study real science.

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benz72 | August 18, 2013 at 7:20 a.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

PDSD "I would sign an Issa recall petition in a heartbeat."

Would you please post the crime you believe him to have committed so that there can be an investigation? Do I remember the discussion incorrectly or was it you who urged that Filner be tried in court vice subject to recall? What differences do you see between these two cases?

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DonWood | August 18, 2013 at 6:08 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

Question for follow up: How many of the current recall leaders were involved in the effort to amend the city charter to change it to a strong mayor system, one in which it
would be difficult to carry out a recall against him? Did these same people end up getting a strong mayor they don't like? Will they be trying to re-amend the city charter to weaken the mayor's office like the city council is doing now?

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MiguelG | August 19, 2013 at 8:47 a.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

Jack in the Box feeds a diverse community that includes elderly and disabled individuals.

The drive thru will continue to offer them and the entire community a convenient method to order and pick up their meals. Removal of the drive thru denies all individuals the choice to either remain in their vehicles or enter the restaurant.

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Missionaccomplished | August 19, 2013 at 12:11 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

Agree with Richard Thompson.

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Peking_Duck_SD | August 19, 2013 at 12:16 p.m. ― 3 years, 7 months ago

Benz, I believe Mr. Issa to be personally profiting from his legislating.

Research it on the internet, including the NY Times article about how Mr. Issa is still active in his business pursuits while not recusing himself from being involved in politics that directly have an impact.

I would like this investigated.

As far as what I said about Filner, I believe he should step-down. I would support a recall effort if it weren't being led by political hacks trying to promote themselves.

At the very beginning of the scandal I said it was inappropriate to ask the mayor to step-down based on hearsay, but that was before actual accusers came forward. It was when we were just listening to Frye and Gonzales tell us hearsay. After credible accusations came forward, one with email evidence to back it up, I then have said since then Filner should resign. I think he will.

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