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Spotify is changing, so one indie artist is advocating for fairness in a stream-heavy world

Julianna Zachariou is making music in a world where streams pay pennies, forcing independent artists to get creative just to stay in the game. From crowdfunding to pushing for new legislation, she's fighting for change in the industry.

Guests: Julianna Zachariou, musician
Liz Pelly, journalist and author of "Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist"

Mentioned in the episode:
Josh Flowers, songwriter and musical collaborator
The D Train | NYC subway line that runs from the Bronx to Brooklyn
United Musicians and Allied Workers (UMAW) | A grassroots union fighting for fairness in music, from streaming transparency to artist pay equity
H.R.7763 - Living Wage for Musicians Act of 2024 | 2024 bill introduced by Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Jamaal Bowman, backed by UMAW, pushing for a penny-per-stream payout to make streaming fairer for working artists
Soda Bar | North Park dive for intimate sets, rising indie acts and vibrant local energy
Prior GoFundMes: Help Fund Julianna's Next Record and Help Julianna Make Music

From KPBS Public Media, The Finest is a podcast about the people, art and movements redefining culture in San Diego.
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