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Q&A: An El Cajon Activist On Counseling Women Who Escaped From ISIS

Dilkhwaz Ahmed talks to Yazidi women who have escaped from ISIS in Duhok, Iraq, March, 2016
Dilkhwaz Ahmed
Dilkhwaz Ahmed talks to Yazidi women who have escaped from ISIS in Duhok, Iraq, March, 2016
El Cajon Woman Counsels ISIS Escapees
Q&A: An El Cajon Activist On Counseling Women Who Escaped From ISIS
Dilkhwaz Ahmed runs a local nonprofit group for domestic violence victims. She has traveled to Iraq several times over the last two years to counsel Yazidi women who have fled from ISIS.

It's estimated Isis has kidnapped 7000 you see these mostly northern Iraq. Many women have been murdered or forced into bonded labor. Women and girls have been sold into sex slavery in places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. An Iraqi woman who runs a nonprofit group in El Cajon for domestic violence victims. She has traveled to Iraq several times over the last two years to cancel women who escaped from Isis. She spoke to us. They experience thing bought and sold in one week, 10 times. They have seen different guys buying them, raping and torturing them. Killing them if they did not obey to their needs. How old with these women? The raping girls as young as nine years old. Old with a 50 years old. These $10,000-$20,000 for young women. What story among the many stood out for you? Special One specific story is of young women. With Isis, the kill her husband. It took your 10-year-old daughter. Guy came and brought her. She told me they took to for kids, five and six years old and killed them. She was crying by telling me which is not able to have a decent funeral for kids. She is able to escape, come back and when I told her what stood out be specifically she said, my daughter. My hope is one I can find her. I think she is alive. I just don't know where she is. What did the women, what do they say about their Isis captors and who they were? They say they were from different countries. They were from Nigeria, Algeria, from Yemen, even somebody said they were a white guy from Australia. Her question was, what were they doing in my country? She said from all over the world, there are people there. With these Isis Lindsay to the girls? They say we asked him why to do that to us. Why are you charging us. I belong to husband, how could you marry me? They say just because you are not Muslim. God told us to do that you.'s event these men in refugee camps in the outskirts, these women have been rescued from Isis. What condition are and physically, what condition are the in mentally? Physically, their suffering from a lot of injuries. Of torture, Burns on the bodies. A lot of them have miscarriages. Emotionally, it's over from nightmares. Trauma and Milwaukee with just a body. They don't know they're walking to and what will the next it be. They're just a life that they don't enjoy life. You are a trained counselor. What do you tell him? When I go there, my job is to support them. To have a voice of their own. And to make sure they're not alone and what happened to them is not their fault. They need to speak out. Once they start to have their voice, this is the beginning of the healing. Even to Iraq several times. You were last there in August. What compels you to help these women? I am Kurdish and I am women, I am an activist. I'm an immigrant. 1980, Saddam Hussein attacked Kurdish people and genocide 180,000 people. The entire world was silence to our people. The story has repeated itself and nobody was to take action. That's what motivates you. I have a good life. I live in America. I enjoy freedoms it's time for me to give back some of the privilege against during the 15 years being in the US. Thank you for speaking with me.

It’s estimated that ISIS has kidnapped 7,000 Yazidis, non-Muslim minorities, mostly from Northern Iraq. Many of the men have been murdered or forced into bonded labor, and the women and girls have been sold into sex slavery in places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Dilkhwaz Ahmed is an Iraqi woman who runs License to Freedom, a nonprofit in El Cajon for domestic violence victims. She has traveled to Iraq several times over the last two years to counsel Yazidi women who have escaped from ISIS.

Ahmed spoke to KPBS News.

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Q: What have the Yazidi women endured after being captured by ISIS?

A: They've experienced being bought and sold in one week - 10 times. They've seen different guys, buying them, raping them, torturing them, killing them if they did not obey their needs.

Q: How old were these women?

A: They were raping girls as young as nine years old to 50 years old. They're paying a lot of money to buy young women, 15, 10, 12 for $10,000 to $20,000.

Q: What story among the many stories you heard from the Yazidi women stood out for you?

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A: One specific story is a story of a young woman. ISIS killed her husband. They took her 10-year-old daughter. She said in front of her a Saudi guy came and bought her. She told me that, `they took two of my kids – five and six years old – and they kill them.’ She was crying by telling me that she was not able to have a decent funeral for her kids. She was able to escape, come back, and when I asked her what stood out for her specifically, she said 'my daughter. My hope is one day I can find her. I think she’s alive. But I just don’t know where she is now.'

Q: What did the women whom you met – the Yazidi women – what did they say about their ISIS captors and who they were?

A: They said they were from different countries. They were from Nigeria, Algeria. They were from Yemen. Even somebody told me there was a white guy from Australia. And her question was, 'what were those people doing in my country?'

Q: What did these ISIS men say to the girls, to the women?

A: They said, `We ask them why do you do that to us? Why are you torturing us? I belong to a husband. How could you marry me?' The ISIS men said, ‘just because you are not Muslim. God told us to do that to you.’

Q: You met these Yazidi women in refugee camps in the outskirts of Mosul in Iraq. These women have now been rescued from ISIS. What condition are they in physically? What condition are they in mentally?

A: Physically, they are suffering from a lot of injuries, of torture, of burns on their bodies. Some of them have a lot of miscarriages. Emotionally, they are suffering from a lot of nightmares and trauma. They are walking just with a body, just a body. They don’t know where they are walking to and where their next step will be. It’s just that they are alive but they don’t enjoy life.

Dilkhwaz Ahmed with Yazidi children at a refugee camp in 2015 in Duhok, Iraq.
Dilkhwaz Ahmed
Dilkhwaz Ahmed with Yazidi children at a refugee camp in 2015 in Duhok, Iraq.

Q: You’re a trained counselor. What do you tell them?

A: When I go there, my job is to support them to have a voice of their own and to make sure that they are not alone and to tell them that what happened to them is not their fault. So they need to speak out. Once they start to have their voice, this is the beginning of their healing.

Q: You’ve been to Iraq several times over the last two years since ISIS rose to prominence in 2014. You were last there in August. What compels you to help these women?

A: I’m Kurdish. And I’m a woman. I’m an activist. I’m an immigrant. In 1980, Saddam Hussein attacked Kurdish people and he killed 180,000 people. The entire world was silent toward Kurdish people. The story, it repeated itself with the Yazidi people. And nobody want to take any action. That’s what motivates me. I have a good life. I live in America. I’m enjoying freedom. So it’s time for me to give back some of the privilege that I gained during these 15 years of being in the United States.

Corrected: September 27, 2021 at 9:27 AM PDT
This interview has been edited for clarity.
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