skip to main content

Listen

Read

Watch

Schedules

Programs

Events

Give

Account

Donation Heart Ribbon

Mom Of Slain Former SEAL Killed In Libya Lashes Out At Romney (Video)

Glen Doherty

Above: Glen Doherty

Mitt Romney got emotional on the campaign trail Tuesday when he described a chance meeting with former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty at a Christmas Party in La Jolla several years ago. Doherty was one of two former SEALs killed in the Libya embassy attack on September 11.

According to several media outlets, Romney shared his story with a crowd gathered in Van Meter, Iowa. He said that he and his wife Ann had mistakenly attended the wrong Christmas Party near his La Jolla home, and ended up have a chance encounter with Doherty:

"He talked about his life. He skied a lot. He had skied in a lot of the places I had and we had a lot of things in common. He told me that he keeps going back to the Middle East. He cares very deeply about the people there. He served in the military there, went back from time to time to offer security services to people there."

Romney's campaign officials told reporters the party took place in either 2009 or 2010.

Doherty's mother Barbara, however, wasn't so charmed by the story. She told Boston television station WHDH-TV:

"I don't trust Romney. He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda. It's wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama."

You can watch the entire WHDH report here:

Video

Barbara Doherty speaks out

WHDH-TV -

Comments

Avatar for user 'bess'

bess | October 10, 2012 at 11 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

I wouldn't believe anything Romney said. Did he really meet this brave young man? Another tall tale? Probably. How sad! God bless Glen Doherty! Shame on Romney!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'bess'

bess | October 10, 2012 at 11:03 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Robmey does not have a heart! Just a fat bank account!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'JedMerrill'

JedMerrill | October 10, 2012 at 11:27 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

What an amazing story Romney told, and what an important meeting!

The Seal's mother may not agree with Romney, but a full two-thirds of military members do, with only 26% supporting Obama, a 40 point gap.

As a Veteran myself, I consider the fight against Obama to be even more important than the fight against Bin Laden an Saddam Hussein. Obama's extreme and often hidden ideology has done a lot of damage to this country, and I am sure it will get worse were he given four more years to fight the true producers in this country.

We do not need more trickle down government. It's expensive and it's not working, even for Solyndra!

Romney/Ryan/Jobs/America 2012! No question. Let Barack and Michelle go live in the $35 million house they just bought in Hawaii to make fun of rich people from. Obama has definitely proven he is more interested in golf than the lives of our troops or our 23 million unemployed and underemployed. He even refuses to have his picture taken with soldiers serving in Afghanistan!

I am casting a vote of no confidence for Obama, and strong confidence in Romney.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 10, 2012 at 11:38 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

After reading Romney's statement, I don't see how Doherty's mother could possibly misconstrue that as a degrading attack on Obama.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'claregirl7'

claregirl7 | October 10, 2012 at 11:58 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

I find JedMerrill's comment typical of "people who want to degrade Obama". It's is a lie that only 26% military support Obama and the rest of his stump speech for Rmoney is garbage. Behind closed doors with his donors, Romney made clear he'd write off half of America -- INCLUDING SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS -- because, as he said "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility for their lives." But there's no greater personal responsibility than to wear your country's uniform and defend the rights we all enjoy as Americans.

President Obama secured the largest increase in VA investments in decades so our veterans get the care and benefits they earned, like treatment for PTSD and traumatic brain injury.

Just as our troops are returning home after a decade of war, Romney and Ryan might gut by up to 20 percent investments in the Department of Veterans Affairs -- and even suggest privatizing the veterans' health care. Again, they would short change our national security and the education, health care and employment benefits our veterans have earned and deserve just to cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:21 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Part One

Jed, the story about the house is false! It is a lie being spread about a house they vacationed in one winter and of course, Fox news twisted it around.

As far as what Obama has done for the veterans, and what the Republicans have done, and what Romney wants to do? Please get real, more lives are at stake.

Obama VS Romney
Romney:
Protested as “a pacifist” for the Vietnam War, and then hid and received 4 deferments. Now wants a HUGE military that will increase our budget by a TRILLION so he can invade all countries. NONE of his family has EVER gone to war, and will NEVER sacrifice for this country. How many men and women are you willing to let die?

The republican congress vetoed a “PAID for” bill that would help veterans get employment. Obama wanted it, so to punish him, they vetoed it!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:22 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Part Two
WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS DONE FOR THE MILITARY AND VETERANS
Sworn into office 2009
• Ordered the Pentagon to cover expenses of families of fallen soldiers if the wish to be on site when the body arrives back in the US (2009)
• Ended the Bush-Era “blackout” imposed on media coverage of the return of fallen US soldiers with the approval of the soldiers family (2009)
• Ordered better body armor to be procured for the US troops (2009)
• Funding new Mine Resistant Ambush Vehicles to decrease an alarming percentage of our soldiers lost in Iraq on account of IED’s (2009)
• Working to increase pay and benefits for military personnel (2009)
• Worked to improve housing for military personnel (2009)
• Initiated a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses (2009)
• Ordered that conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other neglected military hospitals be improved (2009)
• Began the process of reforming and restructuring the military to a post-Cold war, modern fighting force which included new procurement polices, increasing the size of Special ops units, deploying new technologies, creating new cyber security units, etc. (2009)
• Ended the Bush-era practice awarding “no-bid” defense contracts (this is how Halliburton-Cheney’s company was awarded the huge government contract) (2009)
• Authorized construction of additional health care centers to care for veterans (2009)
• The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) enabled the VA with more than $1.4 billion to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, provided grants to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities, and to modify or alter existing facilities to care for Veterans. (2009)
• VA dedicated ARRA funds to hire and train 1,500 temporary claims processors to speed benefits delivery to Veterans and pursue needed information technology initiatives for improved benefits and services. Funds were also used to oversee and audit programs, grants, and projects funded under ARRA. (2009)
• As part of the President’s Recovery plan, VA made one-time payments of $250 to eligible Veterans and survivors to mitigate the effects of the economic downturn. (2009)

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:23 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Part Three
• The President announced the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Initiative. The Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs have worked together to define and build a system that will ultimately contain administrative and medical information from the day an individual enters military service throughout their military career, and into the Veteran phase of life. (2009)
• Suspended Bush-era decision to buy Marine One helicopters from suppliers in favor of American made helicopters (2009)
• New GI bill for returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan (2009)
• Suspended “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy on gays in the military (they have always served, and died for our country, and if you want just straight men to die in war, right on, but that leaves fewer men for us women to choose from (2010)
• Signed bill providing assistance for caregivers of veterans wounded in Afghanistan and Iraq (2010)
• Eliminated co-payments for veterans who are catastrophically disabled (2010)
• Fulfilled campaign promise to have combat troops (90,000) out of Iraq by August 31, 2010 (2010)
• Established a new interagency task force to assist veterans owning small businesses (2010)
• Signed “The Families of Fallen Heroes Act” which covers the moving cost of immediate family members of those lost in service (2010)
• Signed the “Vow to Hire Heroes Act” Tax credit for any business that hires a veteran who’s been unemployed for at least four weeks. A bigger tax break if a business hires a veteran who’s been unemployed for at least six months (up to $5,600). And if a business hires an unemployed veteran Wounded Warriors Tax Credit offers businesses that hire veterans with service-connected disabilities a maximum credit of $9,600 per veteran. (2011)
• Introduced new resources to help veterans translate military skills for jobs in the civilian workforce (2011)
• Veteran Gold Card Post-9/11 veterans can download the Veteran Gold Card, which entitles them to enhanced services including six months of personalized case management, assessments and counseling, at the roughly 3,000 One-Stop Career Centers located across the country. This could help serve the more than 200,000 unemployed Post-9/11 veterans. (2011)
• Created an easier way for veterans to search for jobs through a more unified Job bank (2011)
• Signed an Executive Order to help better meet the current and future demand for mental health and substance abuse treatment services for our troops and veterans and their families (2012)

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:25 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Part Four
• With Secretary Shinseki, the President will make sure the VA provides veterans the best care possible. This means improved care for poly-trauma, vision impairment, prosthetics, spinal cord injury, aging, and women's health.
• Because the nightmares of war don't always end when our loved ones return home, this Administration will work to meet the mental health needs of our veterans. Untold thousands of servicemen and women and veterans suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or other serious psychological injury. This Administration is determined to address the challenges of caring for those affected by PTSD when they return home.
• Because thousands of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have suffered from Traumatic Brain Injury, one of the signature injuries of these wars, this Administration will continue to improve services for cognitive injuries and ensure our veterans receive the on-going care they need. and the President supports advance appropriations for the VA budget so that healthcare for veterans is not hindered by budget delays.
• Obama is instructing the VA to ensure that any veteran with suicidal thoughts is seen by a mental health professional within 24 hours — a standard already set for the VA, but which the department often fails to meet.
• To help the understaffed VA meet that ambitious requirement — there are areas of the country where the dearth of psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers means veterans wait months for appointments — the order directs the VA to partner with the Department of Health and Human Services to tap into community services to help meet demand. The two agencies will create 15 pilot sites in underserved areas by contracting with local facilities. They’ve also been ordered to develop a plan for rural areas, which are lacking in all health services. The plan is to include a way for areas to share mental health providers.
• The VA said in June it had put together a 21-person, in-house recruiting team to work on these issues.
• The executive order also reiterates a VA plan to hire more mental health care providers. However, there is a nationwide shortage and the VA has struggled over the years to lure professionals to work for them.
• The VA has until June 2013 to figure out how to fix that issue with pay, loan repayment, scholarships and partnerships with community-based providers and training programs. The goal, announced by the VA in June, is to hire 1,900 mental health staffers.
• The VA is also being told to increase the veteran crisis hotline capacity by 50 percent by the end of year and to develop a national 12-month suicide prevention campaign that would help connect veterans to mental health services.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:27 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Part Five
• “VA will work closely with our federal partners to implement the executive order immediately, and continue to expand access to the high-quality mental health care services our veterans have earned and deserve,” Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric K. Shinseki said in a statement.
• The president ordered the Pentagon to review and rank its mental health and substance abuse prevention programs by quality and effectiveness. “By the end of Fiscal Year 2014, existing program resources shall be realigned to ensure that highly ranked programs are implemented across all of the military services and less effective programs are replaced,” the order states.

• That forces the Pentagon to take ownership of the programs military-wide instead of allowing each service to decide on its own what programs to use. Reviewing the vast and disparate programs will be a big task and could lead to kickback from the services, which are protective of their programs.
• In addition, the president is convening a Military and Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force to present him with recommendations in 180 days on how to improve treatment services.
VA Services
• We all share the shame of well over one hundred thousand veterans going homeless on any given night. This Administration will work on pilot programs with not-for-profit organizations to make sure that veterans at risk of losing their homes have a roof over their heads.
• Finally, this Administration recognizes that our veterans deserve something more -- an equal chance to reach for the very dream they defend. This Administration is committed to providing the resources to effectively implement the Post-9/11 GI Bill – providing every returning service member with a real chance to afford a college education.
• A Challenge to the Private Sector to Hire or Train 100,000 Unemployed Veterans or Their Spouses by the End of 2013: The President will challenge businesses to commit to hire or provide training to unemployed veterans or their spouses. Joining Forces will lead this work with businesses and industry.
• Presidential Call for a Career-Ready Military: The Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs, working closely with other agencies and the President’s economic and domestic policy teams, will lead a new task force to develop reforms to ensure that every member of the service receives the training, education, and credentials they need to transition to the civilian workforce or to pursue higher education. These reforms will include the design of a “reverse bootcamp,” which will extend the transition period to give service members more counseling and guidance and leave them career-ready.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:31 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Part Six
• Transition to the Private Sector: The Department of Labor will establish a new initiative to deliver an enhanced career development and job search service package to transitioning veterans at their local One-Stop Career Centers. The Office of Personnel Management will create a “Best Practices” Manual for the private sector to help businesses identify and hire veterans.
• Expand Ground Forces to Meet Military Needs and Improve Quality of Life: Increasing end strength in the Army and Marine Corps will help units retrain and re-equip properly between deployments, reduce the strain on military families, and help put an end to stop loss. We also plan to halt end strength reductions in the Air Force and Navy.
• Lighten Burdens on Our Brave Troops and Their Families: Those in uniform are not the only ones who serve; military families are a top priority for this Administration. The President has announced plans to raise military pay and continue providing quality child-care, job-training for spouses, and expanded counseling and outreach to families that have known the separation and stress of war. First Lady Michelle Obama and Dr. Jill Biden have launched the Joining Forces initiative to mobilize all sectors of society to give our service members and their families the opportunities and support they have earned.

“Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked the No.1 item on the president's congressional "to-do-list," refusing to allow a vote on a bill that would give tax breaks for companies that "insource" jobs to the U.S. from overseas while eliminating tax deductions for companies that move jobs abroad. The Bring Jobs Home Act would provide a 20% tax break for the costs of moving jobs back to the United States and would rescind business expense deductions available to companies that are associated with the cost of moving operations overseas. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, had warned Democrats before the vote that his party would want to amend the bill -- possibly with hot-button issues like repealing the health care reform law or extending the Bush-era tax cuts for all income levels. (Punishing Obama and rewarding the rich. NOT caring about our veterans and if any cuts or fees raised to balance the budget) July/2012
During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:36 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

So Jed and fellow republicans........Romney is using that man to make himself look like he has a heart and cares for our military. If he cares so much, why did he PROTEST for the war and then hide? And why did he state his sons were already serving their country by helping him get elected, therefore they will not do military duty? How man more men, women, brothers, fathers, husbands, etc., will die if he gets in? He USED that story of a Navy Seal to make him look like he cares......He will sell you to the Taliban if he felt he could get a reward out of it! Please do your homework before you vote for this evil man..............and PLEASE read up on what the Mormon church will do if "the Chosen one gets in" It is in their history!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'eaglesfanintn'

eaglesfanintn | October 10, 2012 at 12:50 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Navyveteran - thank you for your responses and your service. I hope Jed will read that and maybe rethink some of the bs he's spewing. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I'm hopeful.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 12:54 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Thanks! I am very scared of what will happen if Mitt gets in..............to increase our budget for defense over a trillion, and this is a so called pacifist? He will certainly have to cut something, but it will not be the estate tax, as he wants to leave each son 50 million and does not want them to suffer...........but food stamps, housing, our veteran pensions, Medicare, and SS are all on the chopping block! Oh, but then we are in the 47%!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | October 10, 2012 at 1:10 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

NAVYVET, excellent response to the Romney apologists--whether it was copied & pasted or not, I don't really care. They can't offer a rebuttal because all they have is sand.

My only criticism would be of the Iraq withdrawal. I don't know that Obama actually set a month and year. Most of his supporters were hoping for an earlier withdrawal. Instead, he stepped-up our invovlement in Afghanistan, to dire results, reversed the so-called "Mexico City Policy" allowing for more pro-abortion funds in developing countries AND flipped-floppped on Honduran democracy.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 1:58 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Thanks-----I spent a long time researching and putting it together. I agree that Obama has not been perfect; however, I think if they would quit fighting in DC and Congress stop leaving town so damn much, more could get done. I do realize that it is easy to say one thing on the election trail, but when one is faced with realties sitting at that desk, it can make you go in a different direction. My fear with Mitt, besides flip flopping on every single issue, is his wanting us in a war so bad, he is willing to add over a trillion dollars to our deficit in order to build up our military more. Since he, nor any member of his family has ever, or will ever, serve, it is horrible he wants more wars! He actually said we could have two at a time and did not understand why Obama got us out of Iraq.

I understand about Afghanistan, we should have been there instead of Iraq, but Bush was hell bent on going, regardless of the truth. Just like I knew before he was elected what would happen, and I warned my family, I know what will happen if Mitt gets in.........Our VA system will fall apart, as with us baby boomers, and those coming back now, are already stretching it to the limit...and Mitt wants more wounded! Send his damn sons first!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'HarryStreet'

HarryStreet | October 10, 2012 at 3:39 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

And the GOP accuses the president of using the raid on bin Laden for political gain?

This is a good example of the pot calling the kettle 'black.'

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 10, 2012 at 3:58 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Anyway we can cut down on the copy-paste spam? Good lord!

I think we can all agree that both Democrats or Republicans are bad for America. Both parties support war, excessive & useless defense spending, toss out vets like garbage, and have atrocious foreign policies.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 10, 2012 at 4:13 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

CaliforniaDefender........this is NOT spam. If you are NOT a part of the solution, then you must be a part of the problem! I spent a long time putting that together, as I research all of the time. And I so hope you served your country, and are not a Romney supporter that likes deaths of others while hiding as a COWARD!

And how in the hell can you say Obama tossed out vets? Did you just not open your eyes? He at least is trying to bring our troops home and does not wants more deaths. That is a HUIGE difference form the other side!

FOR GOD'S SAKE.........READ WHAT I WROTE.........OBAMBA CARES!!!!!!!!!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | October 11, 2012 at 12:58 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

I can't believe someone claiming to be a veteran wrote this:

"I consider the fight against Obama to be even more important than the fight against Bin Laden an Saddam Hussein."

So now President Obama is worse than people who orchestrated mass- murder?

Shame on you, JedMerril.

Navyveteran thank you for your service and your posts that clearly show Obama supports our military.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Willard'

Willard | October 11, 2012 at 9:04 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

According to Elf Ellefsen, a freind of slain Navy Seal Glen Doherty, Mitt Romney
introduced himself to Doherty four separate times during a private gathering.
"He said it was very comical," Ellefsen said, "Mitt Romney approached him ultimately four times, using this private gathering as a political venture to further his image. He kept introducing himself as Mitt Romney, a political figure. The same introduction, the same opening line. Glen believed it to be very insincere and stale."
Ellefsen said Doherty remembered Romney as robotic.
http://mynorthwest.com/108/1353861/Romney-story-doesnt-jibe-with-fallen-SEALs-account

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | October 11, 2012 at 10:22 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Jedrow Merrill, I think the one with the hidden evil agenda is YOU. Maybe you should go post on KOGO or KFMB 760.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 11, 2012 at 11:01 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Thanks Peking Duck....why am I suddenly hungry??

And Willard, The quote you posted gives me chills, as it shows Mitt's memory issues! If he could not remember this man and introduced himself 4 times, and the gathering was not that big, how can he remember what to do in the WH? He also changes his story daily on where he stands on issues and has had to have his staff come out and say, NO Mitt did not mean that.....He has a HUGE memory problem and I personally do not want someone in the WH with dementia! Mitt scares me, as he wants to take us back to the Bush days, roll back care for people, and at the same time, do away with the estate tax so he can give 50 million to each son. I would not mind doing away with the estate tax, IF out debts were not huge and Mitt was not hiding most of his money off shore and NOT paying his fair share of taxes! And the plans by the Mormons if he gets in, scares the hell out of me as well!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 11, 2012 at 11:38 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Navyveteran,

You're new, so let me help you just in case you actually want to bring something meaningful to this debate.

Seven long posts in a row is absolutely spam. Make your point succinct and easy to read and don't yell things like "OBAMA CARES!!!!!" That instantly drops your credibility lower than an ant doing the limbo.

Now back to the debate:

Obama supports the Patriot Act, renditions, Guantanamo, and outsourced torture. He replaced soldiers with unaccountable contractors in Iraq, expanded the war in Afghanistan, and destabilized North Africa and most of the Middle East. Might as well call him Bush Jr. Jr. and give him a cowboy hat and a big belt buckle.

Obama doesn't care. Never has, never will.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Willard'

Willard | October 11, 2012 at 12:53 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

NavyVeteran,thank you for all your great facts,and service,many appreciate this!These facts show what Obama has done and continues to do for our brave troops. Obama does not support renditions,torture,or the rest of the assertions that CD never is able to cite, what is CD's "debate",Is it to not vote?

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Outside2view'

Outside2view | October 11, 2012 at 1:11 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

CD,
I believe Navyveterans's posts wre in response to JedMerrill's comments that only 26% of the military, It was good to see a detailed listing of what the current administration has done and wants to do for people who serve the country.

Thank you Navyveteran for your service and the infortmation..

The president did try to close Guantanamo, but was overridden by congress. I have not heard any reports of the continuation of Bush era tactics of rendition and torture, but CaliforniaDefender, if there is information about this out there please let us all know where to find it.

Can you explain your statement that President Obama "destablized North Africa and most of the Middle-East". The reports I have heard were that, for various reasons, people living under dictatorships decided to revolt and remove their leaders in the only way left open to them without a ballot box. So what did the President do cause this problem?

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 11, 2012 at 1:40 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Willard, I'm so glad you asked!

Obama support and continuance of renditions/torture:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14862161 and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/target-of-obama-era-rendi_n_256499.html and http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/21/as_italy_sentences_23_cia_agents

Obama renews Patriot Act nonchalantly with Autopen:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html

Obama supports Guantanamo and even rolls back civil liberties:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-turns-back-the-clock-on-guantanamo/2012/08/16/e97f10c2-e62c-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_story.html

And do you really need a thousand articles on the destabilization of North Africa and the Middle East? Anti-US sentiment has grown to unprecedented levels under Obama as many burn effigies of him:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104801/Afghanistan-Koran-burning-protests-Effigy-Black-Dog-Obama-set-alight.html

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Willard'

Willard | October 11, 2012 at 2:21 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

That's great CD,very interesting articles ,
still don't know if you're saying Romney's better on this, or just complaining?seems to be meandering off-topic

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 11, 2012 at 2:58 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

I'm not saying Romney is better.

I'm dispelling the myth that Obama is different.

In fact, Obama has been the best facilitator of Bush doctrine that the Neocons could have ever hoped for. I'm not even sure why the GOP is running a candidate against him. Perhaps in hopes of improving the economy and to maintain the illusion of a two party system.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 11, 2012 at 8:54 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

CD, you are being VERY condescending! As it was pointed out, my response was to show Obama has done a lot! And while I might be new to this particular web site, I do post on others, and at the ripe old age of 62 (next month), I have lived long enough, and researched long enough to understand some things!

And OH MY GOODNESS.........LOOK AT ALL THE WEB SITES YOU POSTED! SPAM? Or just wet noodles?

And if you do not know the difference between a man who cares for us (Obama), especially the military, and a COWARD (Romney) YOU SIR, HAVE A PROBLEM!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Willard'

Willard | October 12, 2012 at 10:22 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'mccolgan55'

mccolgan55 | October 12, 2012 at 12:20 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Well I was planning on commenting on this story but from all of the other comments apparently we aren't talking about that.

If we were talking about the actual story my comment would be that I don't see where Doherty's mother says it is a lie that her son met Mitt Romney or that Romney spoke about normal life things such as skiing and military service with her son, just that she doesn't like Romney talking about him. I am sorry for her loss but I am pretty sure she doesn't mind other people talking about her son, just Romney.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'radiofree'

radiofree | October 12, 2012 at 12:26 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Romney will say anything to get votes. He is a tax dodger and a draft dodger. Romney was never in the military and he never pays his fair share to fund the military but he would have you believe he cares. His actions speak much louder than his words.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 12, 2012 at 1:18 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Navyveteran,

I tried to give you a few suggestions to help make your debate style more effective, but you clearly don't want to debate. You just want to yell. What does that say about Obama supporters?

mccolgan55,

Her reaction was quite odd. I'm surprised that she misconstrued it as an attack on Obama. She should be happy that a presidential candidate has a connection to her son and is willing to talk about a nice memory of him.

radiofree,

Obama will say anything to get votes, too. They're both politicians, remember? Neither served in the military, both are millionaires, and neither care about you and I as they're both controlled by special interests.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Navyveteran'

Navyveteran | October 12, 2012 at 3:17 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

CD, as a 100% Obama supporter, and a member of the 47% Mitt talked about like I am "less than", I certainly do NOT need help in debating! I think I am intelligent enough to do so. I do have an MS in Psychology, and a member of the Alpha Chi Honor Society! And, I am forced to be in the 47%, as I am on a disability pension from the VA! Obviously, Mitt does not care about us vets that are not up to his standards!

And my post were long for the exact reason of your last comment. "Obama will say anything to get votes, too".

I tried to show you that he HAS gone way above others in caring for our veterans. He also had a grandfather that served during WWII, and Biden's son is in the military now, AND served in the Iraq war. None of Romney's family EVER served, or WILL ever serve in the military, so YES, there is a difference! One side knows sacrifice and wants our troops home, and the other side wants to continually stay in a combat zone somewhere sacrificing our men and women for POWER!!

Did you not watch the debate where Biden said we WILL be out of Afghanistan and Ryan argued we needed to stay in? PLEASE READ WHAT I POSTED ABOVE!

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Willard'

Willard | October 12, 2012 at 4:34 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

Out of respect for this great American hero and his family, I believe this thread should be closed.R.I.P.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'CaliforniaDefender'

CaliforniaDefender | October 12, 2012 at 7:09 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

I agree that this debate, which had promise, has stalled due to certain newcomers. However, I don't think it should be closed.

This is a political topic, albeit a distraction from much more important issues, and the debate has not been disrespectful to Mr. Doherty's memory in any way.

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Len'

Len | October 13, 2012 at 1:17 p.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

There's nothing I can add to what has been said, but I offer that this veteran of 28 years in the Air Force, and my other retired military friends, think that Obama could be better than he has been, but Romney would do great damage to those not luckly enough to be wealthy. He is the most unworthy to be President than any other candidate in my many years.
(Aside to Navy Veteran: Extremely long comments tend not to be read, defeating their points.)

( | suggest removal )

Avatar for user 'Missionaccomplished'

Missionaccomplished | October 18, 2012 at 8:43 a.m. ― 2 years, 2 months ago

CA OFF writes: "Seven long posts in a row in absolutely spam."

Err, did you ALSO wag your finger at poster CATBURKE, or is it just when that they expose the moral bakruptcy of today's rightwing politics that you admonish posters?

( | suggest removal )