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Protesters In Murrieta Turn Back Buses With Migrant Families

Above: Protesters in Murrieta block the path of a charter bus containing migrants who entered the country illegally, July 1, 2014.

Aired 7/2/14 on KPBS News.

The mayor of Murrieta has called for a special town meeting Wednesday night to discuss the issue.

Three buses containing migrants bound for a U.S. Border Patrol facility in Murrieta were turned back after protesters blocked the road Tuesday afternoon.

Approximately 100 to 150 people — some holding signs stating “No New Taxes, No New Illegals” and “America Has Been Invaded” — stood in the road in front of the buses that were filled with 136 immigrants and their children who had entered the United States illegally.

MORE: San Diego immigrants rights groups plan gathering Wednesday in support of the migrant families.

The departure of the migrants from the Riverside County city marked a victory for the protesters who were waving flags while others carried signs reading "Stop Illegal Immigration" and "Return to Sender."

Protesters hold signs along a road in Murrieta, July 1, 2014.

A small band of immigrant supporters also made a showing outside the Murrieta facility, but their shouts were largely drowned out by the opposing camp.

After more than 15 minutes, the buses backed away. They headed south on Interstate 15 into San Diego County, according to an aerial video on CBS8.com, before arriving at the Border Patrol facility in Chula Vista around 4 p.m.

"Quite frankly, I don't know why they didn't bring them there in the first place," said Christopher Harris, a Border Patrol union representative. He said the Chula Vista facility has bunk beds, showers and a recreation room.

The 136 migrants arrived by chartered plane Tuesday at Lindbergh Field where they boarded the buses, a federal Department of Homeland Security official in California told The Associated Press. The official was not authorized to be named when speaking on the issue.

Once the migrants arrive at a federal facility, U.S. immigration authorities will determine whether they will be held or released pending deportation proceedings.

The flight to California was intended to help alleviate the crunch in the Rio Grande Valley after thousands of Central American families and unaccompanied children came to the U.S. fleeing violence at home.

Officials have also flown migrants to Arizona.

Following Tuesday's standoff in Murrieta, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said that once the migrants are processed, they will be taken to a "transition center" in Riverside County set up by a faith-based organization that would help the migrants arrange transportation to their final destinations and help them contact family members.

Murrieta Mayor Alan Long told concerned residents during a town hall meeting Monday that the city had coordinated with the Border Patrol to ensure the anticipated influx didn't create an untenable situation locally. He has called another meeting Wednesday evening to discuss the situation.

He expressed frustration that the federal government was moving its "headache" to Riverside County but assured residents that the individuals set to arrive don't have criminal backgrounds.

"This is a failure to enforce federal law at the federal level," Long said. "Murrieta continues to object to the transfer of illegal immigrants to the local Border Patrol office."

Officials said more migrants could be brought to Southern California within 72 hours.

Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform told City News Service there is no way of knowing "with certainty" the histories of those being brought to the area. Mehlman said some of the children who have been showing up and surrendering to federal agents along the border look older than they claim and have been identified as affiliates of criminal syndicates.

KPBS reporter Jill Replogle, The Associated Press and City News Service contributed to this report.

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Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 3:40 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I accept the protesters rights to demonstration, but they were blocking government employees from conducting government business.

If this was done in any other context, the protesters would have been ordered to move or be arrested.

Why were they not in this case?

Is this where we are at now, tea party protesters can actually block government business without consequence?

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CaliforniaDefender | July 1, 2014 at 3:54 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

YES! YES! YES!

Californians spontaneously standing up to corrupt federal power!

What an amazing show of citizen strength! I thought all was lost in California, but no, our strength is growing!

Where is Pan B? We need to assemble in San Diego and turn them away again!

I am so proud of my fellow Californians!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

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sacooper | July 1, 2014 at 4:04 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

What would Jesus say to this kind of action to taking care of poor women and children?

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progressivebuthey | July 1, 2014 at 4:14 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

every dollar spent on these illegals is another dollar we have to borrow from china to pay for our deficit.

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JeanMarc | July 1, 2014 at 4:35 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

sacooper the last time I checked, this was not a theocracy. Religion does not dictate government policy. If you want that, move to Iran or Somalia. This is about economics and the security of our nation. The government must look out for the interests of this country and its citizens above all else.

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CaliforniaDefender | July 1, 2014 at 4:51 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Well said JM!

Clearly Washington isn't protecting the interests or security of its citizens anymore.

Now it is up to citizens to protect their own interests as we saw today in Murrieta.

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extm4frog | July 1, 2014 at 5:10 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

sacooper, just send your address to CPB and they can drop off the three buses with you...

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OleBuzzard | July 1, 2014 at 5:12 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Peking_Duck_SD, are you SERIOUS????? Those people entered this country ILLEGALLY!! They were being escorted by DHS ILLEGALLY!!!! Is there something about ILLEGAL that you don't understand?????

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 5:19 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

They were in custody being driven to be processed, are YOU serious "old buzzard".

So now law enforcement detaining and processing illegal immigrants isn't enough for you? What you want them to be shot on sight or thrown over the border fence without any processing?

The rhetoric in this regard has become insane.

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luis20142014 | July 1, 2014 at 5:20 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

What the heck is happening with adults?????????? Are you on drugs????? How come someone can go to a BUS FULL OF KIDS and DO THIS??? are you soooo stupidly bitter with your own life ? How can someone HARASS KIDS??? Are you guys NUTZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 5:21 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

DHS detaining and transporting undocumented immigrants is now "illegal" according to people.

Wow.

Just.

Wow.

And what law was DHS breaking??

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lilyred | July 1, 2014 at 5:24 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

What would Jesus do? Probably encourage us to follow the laws. My bleeding heart has bled out. Some of you people won't be happy until we are a third world country. We cannot take in the world's poor. Do you realize how much money we give and services we provide to other countries? We are the last, best hope. What will they do when you destroy us?

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muckapoo1 | July 1, 2014 at 5:32 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Drive that bus into Mexico and leave it. Let them clean up their own mess. Good going citizens of Murrieta, good going.

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Clayismyhome | July 1, 2014 at 5:59 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

The Constitution clearly states in its' preamble, We the people...establish our governing bodies to....secure the blessing of liberty for ourselves and our posterity.
No where does it say we established our government to secure the blessings of liberty for everyone we can send our soldiers to die for or everyone we can drag across the border to take jobs and drain our resources. We are a blessed nation, many believe appointed by God Himself to be a blessed land. We will not stay that way draining ourselves to try to save every person escaping a wayward nation. If we want to help Mexico, we should invade it and secure it's government from the drug lords and corruptness. We would have far more justification doing this than sending soldiers to the middle east to try to push our system on others who do not want it.
It's time our nation stopped trying to be the rudder that steers the ship of the world and go back to being the guiding light we once were.

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mfordfam5 | July 1, 2014 at 6 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

They aren't migrants or immigrants. They are breaking the LAW period!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go CA.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 7:52 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

extm4frog, lilyred, OleBuzzard, Clayismyhome, mfordfam5

All first time posters with only one comment on KPBS, on this story only, and all within the last couple hours.

I suspect this is either one troll, or a minuteman/tea party group trying to bombard comments boards on local media sites.

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lilyred | July 1, 2014 at 8:01 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I just happened to read the story. Can't help it if it's on some nutty CA website. And what business is it to you? I didn't waste my time looking to see how many times you post. Is this page your private domain?

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 8:42 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"Can't help it if it's on some nutty CA website."
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Nobody is forcing you to be on this site, I guess NPR is "nutty" because it doesn't involve right wing freaks yelling at people?

"Is this page your private domain?"
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No, no it's not. It's a public domain where users are free to point out suspected trollish behavior. Your defensiveness speaks volumes.

'We cannot take in the world's poor."
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We aren't. Nice dramatic touch though. Most of the world's poor don't even reside on this continent

Do you realize how much money we give and services we provide to other countries?
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Money spent to help refugees in our own country is nothing compared to the trillions wasted on the unnecessary Iraq war.

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lilyred | July 1, 2014 at 9:12 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I suggest that you and your ilk sign up and volunteer to take these "children" in your homes and support and take care of them. Put your money where your mouth is. Don't like our comments? Don't read them. We have as much right to comment as you libtards do. Suck it up, babe.

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Avatar for user 'Peking_Duck_SD'

Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 9:26 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Why do you put "children" in quotes like that?

Are you implying these aren't even human beings?

These children risked a lot to get here and even if they do get deported, they deserve basic human dignity while in our custody.

This angry display of hate is terrible. It's not as if the U.S. gave them amnesty - they were in custody and being transported.

This was a huge overreaction by a very angry mob.

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lilyred | July 1, 2014 at 9:30 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Justified anger and you didn't see any thug behavior with this bunch. Wish I were with them.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 9:33 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

You still didn't explain why you put "children" in quotes.

Are they not really children?

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 9:53 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

The few protest signs that I see from the pictures above reveal this mob to be political tea party activists who are not simply upset by these migrant children on a bus, but are rather involved in a broader anti-Obama pro-tea party agenda.

Sign: "Impeach Obama"
Interesting, perhaps the silver-haired gentleman doesn't realize that under Obama the U.S. has deported record numbers of undocumented migrants, far more than Mr. bush did.

Sign: "Take Care of our Veterans"
Umm, ok. I agree with her, but did the poor dear show up at the wrong mob rally?? What does this have to do with a bus full of Central American migrants? Again, more proof that this mob was a broader political group. Maybe this woman should take her sign to Washington DC and picket all the Republican congressman voting against healthcare for our veterans.

Sign: "Close the Border"
So the argument is that undocumented migrants cost the country so much money, and this person's solution is to cut-off one of the busiest bi-national economic zones in the world? Ooooookkkkkkkkkk.

Sign: "Bus Illegal Children To Whitehouse"
Again, more proof this is a tea party mob. It all comes back to Obama. Most of these people look like they are of the age to have been adults while conservative icon R. Reagan was in power. I wonder if the formed picket signs when their Ronnie Reagan gave blanket Amnesty to tens of millions of undocumented folk here? Something tells me nah.

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Boots | July 1, 2014 at 10:04 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

The handful of trollbaggers with nothing better to do but spew their hateful venom is quite sad. There is no such thing as an illegal person.

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AdvanceJustice | July 1, 2014 at 10:04 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

You are so right Peking Duck SD.

The signs remind me of the protesters against school desegregation. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/eyesontheprize/story/img_03_schools_06.html

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 10:07 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

According to LA Times :

A well-known Mexican banda singer named Lupillo Rivera who is a UNITED STATES CITIZEN was driving by when he happened upon the protest and somebody shouted that he was an illegal immigrant and should go home.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-immigrants-murrieta-20140701-story.html#page=1

Nothin like some good 'ol fashioned racial profiling at your angry mob rally, eh ?

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Boots | July 1, 2014 at 10:23 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I personally know several tea bag people who are on disability and social security which hard working young people and Hispanic immigrants are paying to collect their Gov cheez

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 1, 2014 at 10:27 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

And boots, how many of the older tea party folks who stomp around calling the President a communist and socialist and protesting the ACA are on Medicare themselves?

It's the "I've got mine so &@$!? the rest of you" mentality.

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Boots | July 1, 2014 at 10:29 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Many so called "illegal" immigrants served in our armed forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, some of which were then deported. Most tea baggers I've met, never served their country

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Boots | July 1, 2014 at 10:32 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Most of this is just plain old Racist Hate and Fear Mongering and yes PD you nailed it as usual including the 1 multi-troll

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Boots | July 1, 2014 at 10:40 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

This is clearly a founding principle America was built on. Those that disagree maybe should self-deport to a country more to their liking

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Boots | July 1, 2014 at 10:44 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Here's some more fun reading for the rw trolls http://www.kpbs.org/news/border/

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lilyred | July 1, 2014 at 11:28 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

You shouldn't be able to walk into someone else's house uninvited, send for the rest of your family to sneak in through the garage, and demand Univision HD as part of the cable package (with the threat that you'll chain yourself to their front door if they don't give in). You can holler when they start sending these "children" to your safe, all-white neighborhood. (But don't expect any sympathy.)
And FYI, "illegal immigrant" is not designated to a particular race. If blond, blue eyed Swedes invaded illegally, bringing diseases, crime, illiteracy, more poverty, I would feel the same. Just so you know, genius.
My bleeding heart has bled out and I'm out of money to give away. Reality.

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October | July 2, 2014 at 12:52 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I can't believe what I am reading here....People holding signs and shouting are somehow bad or evil just because their views don't reflect yours? After all, there were protestors from the side supporting the immigrants, however, THEY were drowned out. What has this country come to when people can't even stand up for what they believe in with a peaceful prorest - the way they are SUPPOSED to express dissent! What would you have them do - fly to Washington DC? Write a letter to their congress person? Yeah right! These rightfully angry taxpaying citizens did exactly what was well within their right to do!

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October | July 2, 2014 at 1:04 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I also am fed up by the idea that just because some of these people are "children" under age 18 we should all just shut up and be a doormat for them to step on. Many of these teenage boys tower over me and could easily overpower me. (Another scary thought) but people should feel bad for holding a sign up to them?

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Condor1 | July 2, 2014 at 1:43 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Is anyone here a bit older and knows history? Central America has had US Govt. back coups from the 1950's to date? The govt. have been puppets for US Food Corporations and have killed thousands of Central Americans when they protest.
Now the Drug War doesn't help but the demand comes from us. Also, if you are of European descent you are an immigrant. Our ancestors don't even come from the Western Hemisphere.
Illegal is what the Executive Order did by purchasing "The Louisiana Purchase". The manifest destiny destroyed treaties which is illegal, oh and stealing these lands of native Americans is also illegal.
If you want to save $ instead of being moral then end these WARS. And pay the people that pick and grow your food.
This movement of people will NOT stop until people live in Peace and it seems the only peaceful places are Europe and America.
Do you really think thats an accident? We all deserve to live in peace but since the germs, steel and guns have monopolized the world into a global economy, now there is no safe haven and we must look inside ourselves and see if spreading WAR around the world is the best thing for everyone.
Not caring for so long is what got us in this mess.
Solutions! Stop blaming others for the decades of us Americans NOT caring about what our Corporations and Govt. does abroad.
Possible Solutions: be humane, end the drug war, legalize, Stop NAFTA, Stop controlling Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. Stop taking their lands so we can grow food for cheap. Pay farmers what they are worth!

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Robocomp | July 2, 2014 at 4:10 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Great work protecting your community! We have done the same thing here in Virginia where they planned to move nearly 600 illegals to an old college campus nearby. This problem was compounded by Obama breaking the law and encouraging illegals to come by refusing to deport and the ridiculous dream act policy. Some of the liberals on here are so ignorant of history and basic economics. Mass 3rd world immigration only drains rescources. It does nothing good for our culture, our country or our future. Selective immigration is what helps a country. Does a person have a skill, no criminal record, speak English? Will this person be able to support themselves within a reasonable amount of time?
"Common sense. So damn rare it's a superpower."

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gdcraic | July 2, 2014 at 5:29 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Lily Red - White people HAVE invaded bringing poverty, disease, crime, illiteracy and poverty. They were called Pilgrims. They couldn't even feed themselves.

Today, we have 20,000 "illegal" Irish in Boston alone. Approximate number nation wide? 50,000. But as my partner says, "they're not looking for white people, luvie".

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Eddie89 | July 2, 2014 at 7:20 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

They were just being taken to be processed and then deported back to their country of origin. Didn't these protesters know that?

Finger printed. Pictures taken. Data taken. Deportation.

This was not some sort of permanent shelter.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 2, 2014 at 7:59 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Eddie, you hit the nail on the head.

That's what I have been trying to convey, but the angry mob and their supporters seem to want any little spark so they can grab the pitchforks and torches and vent their frustration about American becoming more brown and less white.

If the government was forcing these children to settle permanently in this town, then I could maybe see the reasoning, but all they were doing was being processed and held temporarily there so this was a GIGANTIC over-reaction.

Again, according to this angry mob and the people commenting on here in favor of it, I ask what they want.

Apparently, holding and transporting undocumented people by DHS while being processed is no longer acceptable, so I'd like all these people who support this protest to tell me: WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE!?

Anyone with brown skin is thrown over the border with no due process?

They should be starved to death?

They should be shot and the bill for the bullet sent to their home government?

I mean WHAT DO THESE ANGRY PEOPLE WANT?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mastaplanna | July 2, 2014 at 8:27 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

These people should be embarrassed...I say let's send them somewhere, and if they're over 65 take away their medicare if they aren't working, that costs me too much money!

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JeanMarc | July 2, 2014 at 8:28 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

boots what do you not understand? These people committed a crime, they are here illegally. They are criminals. They are illegal aliens. Why should we waste money on criminals? Try to sneak into any other modern non-third-world country on earth and you will find yourself in prison or worse.

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mastaplanna | July 2, 2014 at 8:35 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Why not just load the buses with children and let them drive through then shoot hell fire missiles at them with drones! now that would be awesome

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JeanMarc | July 2, 2014 at 8:36 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

mastaplanna there is a difference between these protestors and the illegal aliens. The protesters are Americans who have paid taxes their entire life. They paid for that medicare, along with all other benefits Americans recieve living in this great country. What us members of the 53% of Americans who pay taxes did not expect our hard earned dollars to pay for are illegal criminals, school for their children, medical care, housing, etc.

Send them back - immediately. Then they will stop coming.

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mastaplanna | July 2, 2014 at 8:47 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yeah sure they will...why would they stop coming, America is awesome...I mean I'd fight tooth and nail to get here if I was in a horrible place...wouldn't you?

It's not all about money, contrary to what everyone thinks, it's also about doing the right thing, there is a right way to do this and a wrong way to do this, I am certain that this is the wrong way...remember Ellis Island? Did everyone going there have an invitation to come to the US?

Most people in this world are good people, and children will remember who treated them poorly...

Do you think it was an easy trip for them to make? Some left their families, some left everything they knew...do you think they are reading the instruction manual on the internet on how to come to the US?

Step 1 - Apply for US citizenship
Step 2 - Wait 50 years
Step 3 - Die waiting

Give me a break, we are the wealthiest country in the world in every imaginable way, we have some room to share

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 2, 2014 at 8:59 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JeanMarc:

boots what do you not understand? These people committed a crime, they are here illegally. They are criminals. They are illegal aliens. Why should we waste money on criminals? Try to sneak into any other modern non-third-world country on earth and you will find yourself in prison or worse.
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Jean, they are detained and being taken for processing, isn't that what happens to criminals or suspected criminals?

When you see a Sheriff's bus transporting people from jail to prison or jail to court for processing, do you throw yourself in front of it and try to stop it/

Do you complain that your tax dollars bought them a bologna sandwich and some water while they were in holding cells for 15 hours at the jail?

This is insane, you are acting like these immigrants were set free or something, again I ask WHAT DO YOU WANT!?

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benz72 | July 2, 2014 at 9 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

mp, how much more of YOUR wealth are you willing to share? It is easy to say that since Messrs. Gates, Buffet and Walton are rich they should give their money to others, but that is a crock. Put YOUR money on the line.

It is reasonable for nations to set a limit on immigration and expect prospective immigrants to follow the rules if they want to enter. It is not reasonable to claim that since there is room here there should be no restrictions on migration. We are not short of people. Let them either find someplace else that need new citizens (Japan and Italy have aging populations, maybe they would be welcome there) or take action at home to improve their native countries.

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JeanMarc | July 2, 2014 at 9:06 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

mastaplanna I wouldn't fight tooth and nail to get to a country if I knew for a fact I would be immediately shipped out, absolutely unable to find employment or shelter or any other free government services. This is what I am getting at. Remove the motivation for them to come here. Impose extraordinary fines on business who hire illegals. Do not give illegals free services. Send them back as soon as we catch them. They will figure it out and stop coming here.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 2, 2014 at 9:07 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

benz, do you realize that the reason we are NOT in the same boat as Italy and Japan is BECAUSE of immigration to our country?

Our white population is aging faster than the birth rate, and we would be looking at the same problem in this country.

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JeanMarc | July 2, 2014 at 9:08 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

mastaplanna it is not all about money? What world do you live in? It is absolutely all about money. My money, my tax dollars paying for this b.s. while my government is trillions of dollars in debt. What is hard to understand about this? Where the hell do you liberals think money comes from to pay for your utopia?

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mastaplanna | July 2, 2014 at 9:08 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

benz72...answer my questoins

I share my wealth with my taxes...it's what we all do...right? I mean when the older population retires, the younger population supports them...which means that I am sharing my wealth with people I don't want to share it with...personally I'd rather share it with these children, at least they can appreciate it...

Why is everyone so righteous on this topic? Unless you are native american, everyone else here are immigrants...we took their land, their culture it is what it is...

Is your money really the end all of be all with you? then make more of it, I don't know what to say, but you did prove my point that it is all about money, which relates to greed, which really isn't good for anyone

No one asked anyone for more money that wasn't already out of your control

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 2, 2014 at 9:15 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

My biggest problem with this is not that people are frustrated with illegal immigration, I am frustrated with illegal immigration.

My problem is that people like this mob are taking their frustrations out on vulnerable people, many of them children, who don't know about our political situation, they are simply trying to flee a terrible place.

Why don't these people march to Washington DC and stick their signs in John Boner's face and the other Congressional obstructionists who are refusing to take on immigration reform.

The fact of the matter is, there needs to be a system in place that allows immigrants our economy needs to be able to come in, and a system that keeps people over the numbers that would be healthy for our economy out.

Currently, the legal process does not account for this.

Our economy can handle, and in fact NEEDS more immigrant labor than the legal process produces.

We need to fix this gap, and then control the border (which would be more manageable by the way, if the legal process was amended).

I am not frustrated with these people for being frustrated, nor am I frustrated with anybody who wants to demonstrate for something the believe in.

But I am frustrated because who they are demonstrating against - a bus full of poor scared children - won't solve SQAUT.

Again, protest the people who can actually change the system - these kids can't do that.

Go overrun congress and shove your signs in the faces of the blowhards up on capitol hill who are too spineless to tackle the immigration issue and THEN I'll be with y'all.

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mastaplanna | July 2, 2014 at 9:23 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Peking Duck - I agree...I mean lashing out at these people, there are people saying that the fabric of society has completely broken down, this is certainly a demonstration of that...all I can hope right now is that these people are treated with dignity and respect...I don't see what is wrong with treating people nicely...can someone point out why you would not treat them nicely?

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Robocomp | July 2, 2014 at 9:32 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Those of you thinking they will be processed then deported are so gullible. They are given a form that tells them to report for court then given a bus ticket further inland. Then they are never heard from again until their teenage kid rapes someone or the mom applies for welfare or they hit someone with their p.o.s. car and have no insurance. (Like they did my wife 3 years ago) The cops new this stain was illegal but had to ley him go. I had to track him down and show his boss/relative my Kimber 1911 to get the damages paid. Funny after that we never saw either of them around town again. My town is a nicer place to live because I had to threaten someone with a gun. That's not supposed to be my job but someone had to do it.

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benz72 | July 2, 2014 at 9:43 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

mp "benz72...answer my questoins" You seem to be trying to answer your own questions. Is there a specific query you would like to re-ask?

PDSD, How many immigrants and with what skills do you believe we need? What would you have us do with those who don't make the cut? I agree that we need some immigration to fill gaps unable to be automated but I believe we are getting a flood instead of the trickle we require.

mp ".I don't see what is wrong with treating people nicely...can someone point out why you would not treat them nicely?"
In general I agree. The world is a much better place when people are nice to each other and follow the rules. That being said, if you are breaking the rules please expect to have some 'not-nice' served up with a side order of 'do not do that again'.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 2, 2014 at 9:54 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Benz, I don't know the exact number - this is something that would require statisticians and experts in many different fields to sort through, but this is what I think the problem is:

There are some people who come at this from a racist perspective and some who come at it from an economic perspective, and those two groups will never see eye to eye.

For those who look at this as a "whites are being drowned out of our own country" point of view, then NO immigration, especially from Mexico, is acceptable for them.

For those who look at this from an economic perspective, as I tend to do, I think our nation does need robust immigration at all levels - both white collar and manual labor - and I think the magnitude to which illegal immigration has impacted us economically is greatly exaggerated by the group of people I mentioned first, who have other motives.

That's why this debate is so difficult, because it's hard to separate out the racially-based motivations from the economic ones.

I think we can all agree that the legal process as it currently exists is a joke though.

It needs to be loosened up so the immigrants we do need can come in quicker and with less red tape, but we do need to establish reasonable quotas so it can be effectively controlled.

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Missionaccomplished | July 2, 2014 at 10:04 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

"Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform told City News Service there is no way of knowing "with certainty" the histories of those being brought to the area. Mehlman said some of the children who have been showing up and surrendering to federal agents along the border look older than they claim and have been identified as affiliates of criminal syndicates."

Now how is THAT for a contradiciton??? MEHLMAN claims one cannot know "with certainty" and then adds that these same children "have been identified as affiliates of criminal syndicates."

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Missionaccomplished | July 2, 2014 at 10:09 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

CA OFFENDER, the PEOPLE are the down-trodden, not a bunch of Roger Hedgefund-listening yahoos with low self-esteem.

If the mouth-breathing yahoos had been left wing occupiers blocking cops from transporting a detained activist to a facility, the cops would have pulled out the bullhorn, pepperspray and the dogs and YOU, CA OFFENDER, would have been APPLAUDING.

Your hypocrisy knows NO bounds.

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Missionaccomplished | July 2, 2014 at 10:13 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Muckkkapoop1, ONCE AGAIN, you are WRONG. The people are from Central America, not Mexico and driving a Homeland Security bus to Mexico might create an international incident. Are you really that dense???

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JeanMarc | July 2, 2014 at 10:51 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Mission - I believe your caffeine levels are dangerously high this morning. Please be careful my friend.

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CaliforniaDefender | July 2, 2014 at 11:44 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Missionfailed,

Your argument is nothing but an empty, baseless rant.

1. The PEOPLE are citizens. Economic class is irrelevant.

2. I would not have applauded. I believe protesting is a fundamental right.

3. I don't listen to Rodger Hedgecock.

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benz72 | July 2, 2014 at 12:15 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

PDSD, I agree that we should probably look at the numbers. Perhaps when we have a clear demand signal we can more appropriately target our quotas. Similarly I agree that racism has no place in immigration policy. National Loyalty, Skill, Determination, Language ability, Financial support/ self- sufficiency, yes. Skin tone, no.
I am unconvinced we are short of blue collar workers in aggregate, though there may be specific trades in need of an influx. For other professions the picture is a little murkier to me but I find it difficult to believe that the demand is anything close to what we are bringing in. (MAY2014 CA unemployment was 7.6%)

http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-unemployment-update.aspx

As to the legal process… it is certainly no joke. My wife went through it. We waited our turn, played by the rules and paid our processing fees. I am very much against people who cut the line or ignore the process because they think they don’t need to enter legally. Allowing it sends precisely the wrong message.

Looping back to the original confusion on numbers, why don’t we agree what we need before we either loosen or tighten the current law?

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 2, 2014 at 1 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Benz, I agree with most of what you said (I still think the legal process is a joke - it may work for people who have means and time, but it's not very realistic in other cases) - but overall I think you approach this with logic and reason and not racism.

I only wish others shared your approach with reasonable discussion and not blind hate, we would probably have had meaningful reform by now if this was the case.

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JohnRandolph | July 2, 2014 at 2:02 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Washington politicians continue to throw Americans under their immigration reform buses.

NAFTA and CAFTA trade policies simultaneously guarantee that Washington' crony US corporate investors will plunder the undocumenteds' home countries for riches while exacerbating labor-driven US illegal immigration too.

All of course are hidden under the guise of a humanitarian crisis that these same Washington profiteers not only help create but one that they laughingly see as a necessary cost of doing their greedy business also.

Of course the undocumented pay the price as American taxpayers suffer the costs and consequences of Washington's insidious, decades-old system of abuse. Washington immigration profiteers continue to throw Americans under their immigration reform buses in order that their profiteering US corporate investor masters can plunder the undocumenteds' home countries for resources and labor while guaranteeing continued US illegal immigration too.

All of course hidden under the guise of a humanitarian cause that these same Washington profiteers not only help create but one that they could care less about too.

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jskdn | July 2, 2014 at 2:23 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

It's hard to get people out to protest against illegal immigration, unlike its promoters that decry effective enforcement of the law and seek rewards for those who are here in violation of it. I suspect those in government that largely support the agenda of the latter groups don't really like this situation because it makes illegal immigration, and government's complicity in it, too visible, threatening the kind of reaction from citizens that could disrupt their agenda. They prefer to keep illegal immigration largely under most of the publics radar so that the they change the country before the citizens can act against that. I imagine the thinking is, that after the demographics of illegal immigration reaches a certain point, their agenda can't be stopped. The majority of people in the country that wanted immigration limited and legal will be overwhelmed by a population that doesn't, combined with those for who illegal immigration represents a means to ends they seek.

If the citizens of the country could ever get a real understanding of the government's complicity in illegal immigration, and be able hear a open debate about limiting immigration, what that requires, and choose between coherent policy options, something the news media works hard to deny, we might see some real change. But I see no willingness in the news media to allow a reasoned debate.

Jill Replogle was on “Which Way, LA?” on this issue today. You can listen or download that show online at KCRW.

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ciavarjf | July 2, 2014 at 3:43 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

W.A.R. = We Are Right!
If we listen to each other instead of attacking those who don't share our views we might find a middle ground. When we WAR, everyone loses.

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Missionaccomplished | July 2, 2014 at 4:01 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JOHN MARKKK says "sacooper the last time I checked, this was not a theocracy. Religion does not dictate government policy. If you want that, move to Iran or Somalia"

Yet the Hobby Lobby court decision and much abortion legislation is compelled by the religious beliefs of the plaintiffs or the legislators. DID YOU REMIND THEM TOO THAT WE DON'T LIVE IN A THEOCRACY??? Eh, John Markkk?

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Missionaccomplished | July 2, 2014 at 4:11 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

CA OFFENDER, once you it is you who are wrong, and think he can shake off his fallacy with a quick one-liner.

The "PEOPLE" is not all-inclusive, it never was. It does not include the business class or the elite. The slogan, power to the people, if you want insist on being anachronistically silly, was NEVER meant to include our elected reps, the business class and much less the elite. And these idle neckkks, are certainly NOT representative of the American people across the board. Of course, one CAN argue the dumbing down of Americans.

I'm glad you don't listen to Hedgecock. You scapegoat the weakest people well enough on your own.
I'm glad you agree protesting is right, but I'll wait and see what you post when the situation is reversed. I love it how you always say BOTH parties but then apologize for the faux pas of the GOP if not giving them a free pass altogether. Your true colors are showing.

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Missionaccomplished | July 2, 2014 at 4:15 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Benzzz, the current crisis with the minors has a completely different dynamic than the usual clandestine immigration. Its almost apples and oranges. This is a humanitarian crisis, distinct from adult clandestine immigration, and no less complex.

Do youself a favor, google NY Times Mexico City correspondent Damian Cave and read his articles.

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RLA | July 2, 2014 at 4:32 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

To those of you in favor...
Which of your federal benefits are you ready to give up? Social Security? Obamacare? FDA safeguards? Border Security? Coast Guard rescues? Interstate Highways? EPA? , etc.

The money needs to come from somewhere, maybe you want it all and you can't wait to double or triple your federal taxes to have it all.

Why just Central American children? What about the poor kids in the Congo, the MidEast, China, Tibet, India, Romania, and the rest of the world? Why not convert our military transportation capabilities, land, sea and air into immigration carriers? They could "save" millions and bring them to the promised land.

The end result will be a "leveling of the playing field". Yes, your dreams will come true and the US will at last be a third world nation. Congratulations!

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Robocomp | July 2, 2014 at 5:13 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Hey PEKING_DUCK_SD, you ever take a regional jet? How would you like to get on the plane knowing that an hour earlier it was full of 130 illegals with severe head lice , scabies, and who knows what else? Well it's happening. Sit comfortably moron.

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Robocomp | July 2, 2014 at 5:33 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

And it has begun! First confirmed case of tuberculosis in border patrol staff member due to this influx. We tried to warn you.

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JohnOgre | July 2, 2014 at 9:05 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

These racist protesters are the tea party base of the republican party. I'm not even slightly surprised by their antics. How dumb do you have to be to start a group called "Taxed Enough Already" when federal Income Tax rates are at their lowest levels since 1931.

Hey RLA I'd be very happy to close the VA and end all vet benefits, I'm tired of having my taxes paying for a bunch of warfare welfare queens.

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RLA | July 2, 2014 at 10:11 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JohnO, the issue will be what you are willing to give up - not which benefits of other citizens you want to cancel. Maybe you could let us know how much extra funding you added to your Federal and State Income taxes this year. There is an accommodation for this in the tax systems.

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JohnOgre | July 2, 2014 at 10:55 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

RLA No thanks, I'm not giving up anything, we just need to stop subsidizing warfare welfare. Remember, it's a spending problem not a revenue problem.

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Boots | July 3, 2014 at 12:27 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Like previous post said are all the rw trolls on drugs? they never even bother to read the story they comment on,posting wildly off-topic. I hope Law Enforcement monitors these hatemongers, one genius even admitting to a crime ! lol "My town is a nicer place to live because I had to threaten someone with a gun. That's not supposed to be my job but someone had to do it." or suggesting listening to another station! Many
are sick of paying for the rw teabag welfare queens,and their wasteful agenda,how many billions of tax-payer money do we have to spend "securing the border"? how about a few trillion is that enough?The Right have perfected the art of Hypocrisy.

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Boots | July 3, 2014 at 1:56 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Those that truly care about this issue should look here
http://immigrantsandiego.org/2014/07/02/immigrant-rights-leaders-urge-san-diegans-respond-values-humanitarian-crisis/

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Helm | July 3, 2014 at 7:04 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

If they were OWS protesters the Sheriffs would have whipped out their tear gas and nightsticks for sure and started hauling away anyone who remained in their way - they do it at parties all the time.

Why do we let these Tea Party buffoons get away with blocking the federal government from doing their duty with zero repercussions? At least a night in jail so they can socialize with their favorite people...

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JMiller224 | July 3, 2014 at 8:31 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Hey this is just some political stunt by some hack is riverside co. Who give a crap about what goes on is wherever this is.

Hey it is a reason they don't live in San Diego (am I right folks).

The biggest question I have is why is this hick show getting any press?

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 3, 2014 at 9:25 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JMiller224 is correct. The more this story digests and more information comes out, I am realizing just what a sham this is.

Most of these people were NOT locals, they were members of an organized anti-tax, anti-Obama tea party group who travels around to different areas staging these mob rallies.

Many of the same people were recognized from protesting in Escondido last week, so it's not a grass-roots uprising it's a very active group that travels around staging this nonsense.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 3, 2014 at 9:28 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Helm, there is speculation that the police and mayor had coordinated this with the protesters beforehand.

The police stood around and did nothing and accounts I have read suggest they actually led the crowd to be right in front of the buses.

There needs to be an investigation of the Murrieta mayor and police department, and I hope KPBS will follow this closely and ask questions about whether an investigation will take place.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 3, 2014 at 9:30 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Palm Springs-based reporter Greg Lee who works for KESQ in Palm Springs was told this by the racist mob:

"GO BACK TO CHINA"

"GO EAT SUSHI"

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2014/07/ugly-americans-block-migrant-buses-in-murrieta/#.U7WDb6g2na8

That should tell you everything you need to know about this group of disgusting individuals.

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JeanMarc | July 3, 2014 at 11:59 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

To be fair, I did eat sushi in Beijing, so they do have sushi in China.

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Robocomp | July 3, 2014 at 1:30 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

A crime? The crime was when the police let a known illegal with no license and no insurance go. What was I supposed to do? I am middle class. Pay check to pay check. We work 2 jobs and do without new cars or vacations or anything like thay just to pay medical bills and everyday expenses. I dont gey any help because im white with one chold and a job! If shit happens im expecyed to work alittle harder or do without alittle more. What I did was justice and mercy. I took the body shop estimates with me. Showed him how much he owed. He is the one that chose to operate outside the law. I can't make $1200 appear overnight to repair my wife's car. We had just bought it a month earlier. I did make my small town safer for every decent hard working citizen by encouraging them to leave. That is one fact you cannot dispute.

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Robocomp | July 3, 2014 at 1:36 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

A crime? The crime was when the police let a known illegal with no license and no insurance go. What was I supposed to do? I am middle class. Pay check to pay check. We work 2 jobs and do without new cars or vacations or anything like thay just to pay medical bills and everyday expenses. I dont get any help because im white with one child and a job! If shit happens I'm expected to work a little harder or do without a little more. What I did was justice and mercy. I took the body shop estimates with me. Showed him how much he owed. He is the one that chose to operate outside the law. I can't make $1200 appear overnight to repair my wife's car. We had just bought it a month earlier. I did make my small town safer for every decent hard working citizen by encouraging them to leave. That is one fact you cannot dispute.

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Clayismyhome | July 3, 2014 at 8:57 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Hmmm....some folks are upset because newcomers to this site have an opinion about national news. For me, a facebook friend who was familiar with this site posted it and I followed the link. Simple enough, it's called social networking.

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Missionaccomplished | July 3, 2014 at 9:01 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

RLA how about withdrawing from Okinawa and closing the base???

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Missionaccomplished | July 3, 2014 at 9:04 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Still waiting on John Markkk from my last post . . .

"Yet the Hobby Lobby court decision and much abortion legislation is compelled by the religious beliefs of the plaintiffs or the legislators. DID YOU REMIND THEM TOO THAT WE DON'T LIVE IN A THEOCRACY??? Eh, John Markkk?

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Missionaccomplished | July 3, 2014 at 9:05 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

@QUACK, you would think the rich white folkkk who live in Palm Springs would know that sushi is Japanese and not Chinese.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 3, 2014 at 10:07 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Mission, it wasn't rich white folk in Palm Springs, it was ghetto tea party folk in Murrieta who formed this mob - Mr. Lee was there to cover the story and received the ignorant remarks from the same group of people who turned the buses back.

And no, with that group, I wouldn't even expect them to be able to decipher between Japan and China on a map.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 3, 2014 at 10:15 p.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Robocomp

Hey PEKING_DUCK_SD, you ever take a regional jet? How would you like to get on the plane knowing that an hour earlier it was full of 130 illegals with severe head lice , scabies, and who knows what else? Well it's happening. Sit comfortably moron.

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Dear Ignorant Sir,

It's during processing, the very processing that the racist tea party political activist mob IMPEDED, when people receive the medical checkups that check for and treat the conditions you listed.

You are so full of BS, I'm sure you would throw a tea party hissy fit as you tea party types love doing over "government healthcare" to treat lice, scabies, etc., whilst these people are detained and processed, but then you turn around and call them diseased and filthy.

I'd like to see what kind of condition YOU would be in if you lived in a gang-infested war zone, spent days without proper hygiene risking your life through jungle, dealing with traffickers and even sexual assaults as many have encountered, trying to make a better life for yourself just to be met by a mob of angry racist rednecks. You might not be so "fresh" yourself you bigot.

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SusyCruel | July 4, 2014 at 4:13 a.m. ― 3 months, 3 weeks ago

This is just so sad....

You stupid people do realize that all the immigrants come and take all the jobs YOU LAZY people don't want..?

I would LOVE to see all of you get up at 4am to go and work the field for 10 hours under the hot sun or in the cold winter . Or come and pack cherries or apples for more then 13 hours. Do u people think is easy, I know moms and dads that work both jobs ,they don't get to see their families because they NEED... No I'm sorry they don't NEED they WANT to work hard to send their Kid to a good school so they don't have work like they do.

I work packing apples, I stared when I was 16 and I'm now 21 and all the money goes to pay for college. Do YOU people even know how many "white" people go and ask for a job...? I have only seen one girl, after lunch she did come back. Because this job is no easy. Lady's at work tell me how they had nothing growing up, and that's why they came here to give to their children what they current give them in their home land. They tell me to stay in school.
Do you people think we are going to do the same think you did to us?
Because you people do know that The U.S took a bunch of land from Mexico?

http://www.houstonculture.org/hispanic/conquest4.html

I bet that ur history books don't teach you that.

Viva Mexico cabrones!!

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Robocomp | July 4, 2014 at 6:31 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

PEKING_DUCK_SD If 3 bus loads of illegals were turned away from the place we're they supposed to be medically screened in Murrieta, that means they were not screened yet. They didn't travel to California on those busses. They got there on a chartered regional jet then put on the bus! That jet and it's crew, the bus drivers, and the border patrol staff have all run the risk of being exposed! You don't take people like that and spread them all over the country THEN screen. You screen FIRST! Yes I'm a bigot because I don't want to see decent people getting sick due to the fool in the white house trying to create a larger voter base. You have a blatant disregard for logic and history. You are the type of emotionally motivated voter that the Democrat party rely on.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 4, 2014 at 9:32 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Of course, it always comes back to Obama.

The same Obama who has deported record numbers of people.

I'm starting to see that these mob demonstrations don't really have much to do with illegal immigration, they have more to do with the hatred of President Obama.

Were there angry mobs protesting when President Reagan (the real FOOL in the white house) gave blanket Amnesty?

And then there were the two bush administrations - illegal immigration didn't just crop up when President Obama came to office.

You haters might be more believable if you actually focused on the issue you claim to be so mad about instead of using it as a smokescreen to attack the President.

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Robocomp | July 4, 2014 at 3:13 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

The Reagan era amnesty was another "compromise" that the Democrats backed out of their end of the deal. The border was supposed to be locked down in exchange for amnesty but that of course didn't happen. "Obama deported record numbers..." What a joke. Border agents that quit in disgust blew that lie out of the water years ago. The mainstream media doesn't even report that anymore since it has been debunked. Look, I'll be the first to admit that I think Obama is just a nigger living of a hussle. Yea, I said it. I said it because it's true. You no doubt voted for him twice. You wanted to be a part of history, well, congratulations! The first black president has also turned out to be the worst with failed economic, domestic, and foreign relations policy. That fact doesn't change the facts of the topic of this article. They are transporting people across the nation BEFORE they are fully medically screened. The illegals are using scripts and fake family relationships and the border patrol has been rendered powerless by this admins policy. I won't be keeping up with these comments anymore. It is useless debating with people that are so far gone. It's like trying to explain a computer to a cave man. "Common sense. So rare it's like God damn superpower."

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benz72 | July 4, 2014 at 5:57 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Robocomp, there is no call for that kind of language. I am suggesting your comment be removed. Your inability to present an argument without resorting to that sort of disgusting name calling is disappointing.

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SalULoyd | July 5, 2014 at 6:47 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

@Duck, I wonder if Rhonda Deniston, a know media-seeking Tea Birching woman from Oceanside was present at the incident.

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progressivebuthey | July 7, 2014 at 8:55 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

scott peters is useless. he should be calling for a change in the law to expedite review of the children's claim of asylum at the border, rather than releasing the kids and mothers into the community where only 33% ever show up for the hearing and for those that do, it can but 5 years before a decisio can be made. peters instead blames the lack of comprehensive immigration reform --- which has NOTHING to do with the current crisis.

btw --- demaio ain't doing any better on this issue, but peters is the sitting congressman. this noveember i ain't voting for peters or demaio --- both losers.

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JeanMarc | July 7, 2014 at 9:38 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Missionaccomplished - Separation of church and state means the state cannot force someone to follow or not follow a religion. Forcing people to buy abortion pills for people is way outside the constitutional role of the government.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 7, 2014 at 12:04 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Jean: health insurance is part of an employees compensation package - just like their paycheck and their bonuses.

By your logic, Hobby Lobby is "paying" for things someone who works their buys with their own salary because that's where the money indirectly comes from.

People should be allowed to get the compensation they work for and be able to spend it on what they not, not having to be subject to approval by their employers.

This is huge over-reach.

And to all the people harping about Obama not following immigration laws:

It was GW Bush who signed a law into effect that treats Central American refugees different than people crossing the border from Mexico or Canada.

They can't simply be turned back the way a Mexican or Canadian could be - they have to be processed.

So Obama and those in DHS ARE following the law, the law that Bush passed and many Republicans in Congress supported.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 7, 2014 at 12:05 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

who works there ... not their

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Missionaccomplished | July 7, 2014 at 3:09 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Saturday I e-mail Mayor Alan "I wish it was" Long to give him a piece of my mind about his disgusting behavior and comments. Saturday night he e-mails me back:

"Once here they are transported around to facilities that are not humane. The Murrieta BP office is a jail cell designed for drug smugglers."

So in other words, his protest was because he was concerned about their accommodations??? Yeah, right, Long. You can't even give me a straight answer!

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 7, 2014 at 6:42 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

mission, you should share that email with the media - send it to all the major stations- that is the complete opposite of anything he has said publicly. It sounds like publicly he is trying to appease the hysterics and privately he is drawing to make it sound like he's concerned.

This man is a political shill.

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JeanMarc | July 8, 2014 at 8 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

They should dump them back into the desert just south of the border. They took the risk. This will stop their buddies from joining them over here.

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benz72 | July 8, 2014 at 8:35 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

PDSD "It was GW Bush who signed a law into effect that treats Central American refugees different than people crossing the border from Mexico or Canada."

We have already established that Bush can sign bad law. Let's look into repealing it.

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CaliforniaDefender | July 8, 2014 at 10:22 a.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Missionfailed and Duck,

Mayor Long is 110% correct and a HERO for standing up to the US government's abuse of these kids and our communities.

I have heard him say numerous times on camera that the Murrieta BP Station is nothing but a jail and his first concern is for the safety and care of the children.

The humane thing to do is to process them at temporary holding facilities in Texas and return them to Central America within 72 hours.

It should be done, it can be done, and it will fix the problem.

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 8, 2014 at 1:36 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Benz:

We have already established that Bush can sign bad law. Let's look into repealing it.

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First off, we all know how "quick" congress works - and in the meantime the point is that it is the law to process these people and not instantaneously deport them.

Don't you find it ironic that the Murrieta Mob seems so dismayed at people doing something "illegal", yet they are advocating for doing something illegal to respond to it?

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Peking_Duck_SD | July 8, 2014 at 1:40 p.m. ― 3 months, 2 weeks ago

CADef:

The humane thing to do is to process them at temporary holding facilities in Texas and return them to Central America within 72 hours.

It should be done, it can be done, and it will fix the problem.

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I thought I read somewhere (or maybe heard on the news) that there are over 300,000 people in the queue to be processed. How can it be done that quickly unless these people are processed ahead of the queue? And why would you want to move them ahead? How are they any more of a "threat" than the other undocumented crossers who came over before this recent group snowballed the media spotlight?

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