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Teams Report First Progress Against Wine Country Wildfires

Santa Paula firefighter Tyler Zeller, right, hoses down a hot spot with the help of Jesse Phillips, Thursday, Oct. 12, 2017, in Sonoma, Calif.
Rich Pedroncelli / Associated Press
Santa Paula firefighter Tyler Zeller, right, hoses down a hot spot with the help of Jesse Phillips, Thursday, Oct. 12, 2017, in Sonoma, Calif.
Californians Under Siege Try To Fight Fires, Find Loved Ones
Californians Under Siege Try To Fight Fires, Find Loved Ones GUEST: Alex Hall, atmospheric and oceanic sciences professor, UC Los Angeles

Firefighters in Northern California have seen higher humidities and calmer winds and helping them begin to contain some of the fires that of claimed at least 31 lives and devastated nearly 200,000 acres in Sonoma, Napa and other counties. Up north they are called Diablo winds. The research indicates that indicates these winds may be getting even drier. Joining me is Alex Hall, , atmospheric and oceanic sciences professor, UC Los Angeles. For the most part, the kind of weather and wind pattern that are driving these fires is standard for this time of year in California. Can you give us a brief description of what causes the winds? As we start to have winter come upon us we can have high pressure systems building up over the high desert and even further north. That can create strong offshore flow as the air masses want to make their way back to the coast. This is a seasonal pattern emerges like clockwork in California and so it's very much part that is common. Is there any research that shows these are getting stronger? I don't think there has been a lot of research that has shown that they are getting stronger. What is changing is that they're getting hotter and drier when they occur. We do project that they will continue to get hotter and drier as climate change proceeds. That can set up greater fire risk when they do cause fires and coincide with the ignition. In that sense, they are changing and the impact is changing. How does the dryness of the winds affect fire risk? They can be driven by warmer temperatures and they can spread more when temperatures are warmer. Also when they are drier they have greater affect on vegetation and that makes the vegetation more likely to catch fire and the fires to become larger. As a winds blow through these very dry winds that are getting drier, they suck the moisture out of the vegetation? Yes, what little moisture there is remaining after our dry season. They can suck that out and they can make the fire more likely to spread. CalFire's director recently signed -- they said that fire season is up to 70 days longer in the west compared to 30 or 40 years ago. Would we expect the fire season to remain this long or even increase? There are other factors besides the conditions when the winds below and the fact that we've had hotter and drier summers especially recently in that causes the vegetation to be drier and Santa Ana or Diablo winds and that can also create bigger fires and make the fire season happened earlier or later than it. So I think that might be a factor behind these changes is the conditions of the vegetation with the Santa Ana or Diablo season begins in the fall. I think that we are -- we might expect changes going forward as well Scientists around the world are looking at the rise of 2°C. It is a tipping point as a signal in assessing how climate change will affect us. As you are studying these winds, do you have a metric you are watching for in the changing nature of the winds? I think the effect on fires and that is a topic that I think is deserving of more study. It would be great to have better understanding of the frequency. We need to understand fire behavior better. I think this is an area where we need a bit more work. I've been speaking with Alex Hall. Thank you so much. My pleasure.

A fifth day of desperate firefighting in California wine country brought a glimmer of hope Friday as crews battling the flames reported their first progress toward containing the massive blazes, and hundreds more firefighters poured in to join the effort.

The scale of the disaster also became clearer as authorities said the fires had chased an estimated 90,000 people from their homes and destroyed at least 5,700 homes and businesses. The death toll rose to 35, making this the deadliest and most destructive series of wildfires in California history.

In all, 17 large fires still burned across the northern part of the state, with more than 9,000 firefighters attacking the flames using air tankers, helicopters and more than 1,000 fire engines.

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"The emergency is not over, and we continue to work at it, but we are seeing some great progress," said the state's emergency operations director, Mark Ghilarducci.

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Over the past 24 hours, crews arrived from Nevada, Washington, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, North and South Carolina, Oregon and Arizona. Other teams came from as far away as Canada and Australia.

Since igniting Sunday in spots across eight counties, the blazes have reduced entire neighborhoods to ash and rubble. The death toll has risen daily as search teams gain access to previously unreachable areas.

Individual fires including a 1991 blaze in the hills around Oakland killed more people than any one of the current blazes, but no collection of simultaneous fires in California ever led to so many deaths, authorities said.

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People remained on edge, worried about the wind shifting fires in their direction, said Will Deeths, a Sonoma middle school principal helping to supervise volunteers at Sonoma Valley High School, now an evacuation shelter. "In the afternoons we start looking up at the flag pole and we start looking to see, is the wind blowing? Is the flag moving?" he said. "It's been really crazy."

Dozens of search-and-rescue personnel at a mobile home park in Santa Rosa, also in Sonoma County, carried out the grim task Friday of searching for remains. Fire tore through Santa Rosa early Monday, leaving only a brief window for residents to flee, and decimated the park, which was known as Journey's End and was home to hundreds of people.

Workers were looking for two missing people who lived at the park. They found one set of remains, mostly bone fragments, and continued looking for the other, said Sonoma County Sgt. Spencer Crum.

To help in the search, the Alameda County Sheriff's Office near San Francisco sent specialized equipment, including drones with three-dimensional cameras and five dogs trained to sniff out human remains.

Authorities have said that some victims were so badly burned they were identified only by metal surgical implants found in the ashes that have ID numbers on them.

The influx of outside help offered critical relief to firefighters who have been working with little rest since the blazes started.

"It's like pulling teeth to get firefighters and law enforcement to disengage from what they are doing out there," CalFire's Napa chief Barry Biermann said. "They are truly passionate about what they are doing to help the public, but resources are coming in. That's why you are seeing the progress we're making."

In addition to manpower, equipment deliveries have poured in. Crews were using 840 fire engines from across California and another 170 sent from around the country.

Two of the largest fires in Napa and Sonoma counties were at least 25 percent contained by Friday, which marked "significant progress," said Ken Pimlott, chief of the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. But he cautioned that crews would face more gusty winds, low humidity and higher temperatures. Those conditions were expected to take hold later Friday and persist into the weekend.

Smoke from the blazes hung thick over the grape-growing region and drifted south to the San Francisco Bay Area. Face masks were becoming a regular accessory, and sunsets turned blood-red from the haze.

"It's acrid now," said Wayne Petersen in Sonoma. "I'm wearing the mask because I've been here two or three days now. I live here. It's starting to really affect my breathing and lungs."

Fire officials were investigating whether downed power lines or other utility failures could have sparked the fires, but they say they are far from determining how the blazes began.

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